Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

You forgot the AU patria with the 30mm turret, so they can also get stuff from Finland…honestly still waiting for a TT domestic Finnish Patria but im thinking it may never come lol.

Also Norwegian leopard and so on with the other point that vehicles go to where they are needed. Neither Norway or Denmark are subtrees to sweden, (though if they go anywhere else sweden air will be dead forever lol)

Or the SA patria with the 30mm, thats another LT they could get.

if it was a Marine AIM, it wouldve been top BR which isnt allowed for non-tt vehicles, due to better ammo and better armor. couldve been the RDF/LT though which wouldve been interesting

UK can also get Boxer as wheeled vehicle

UK has their own versions of the boxer and the South African Badger IFV (which was actually shown in the decal along with the tracked rapier). So there is no need for the Australian or Canadian wheel vehicles when there are already existing options from both the UK and their South African sub-tree.

I could say the same thing about Air. UK has more options left than most other nations in game including Germany. So even less of a need for Australian/Canadian subtrees on top of the two UK already has.

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should be a bug caused by ERA, the model maybe overlapped causing APFSDS get through the armor without ricochet.

BTW, do you guys know that type 90’s armor get fixed in ricent update. It’s front composite armor can’t create secondary shatter, which is caused by it’s strange shape.

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I am gonna give an example the Kf41 Aus is in a similar situation as the leopard 2a4m can.
While the kf41 aus even got rejected.
Both are unique modifications of a vehicle that are exclusive to 1 single nations.
Now the 2a4m can is im service with canada and went to germany. The KF41 isnt even in service with australia and would be even more likely to be added to geemany followimg zjose implementation rules.

Vehicles or modification versions that arent part of the developer nation yet.

Official denial about the sun tree part from smin

cough

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Besides UK having their own boxer, followimg implementation laws germany has the “ausrtalian” boxer themself, so the australian version could be added to Uk and geemany getting its own one.

Plays into the next point of losing uniqueness.
The advantage is that everything indian russian tanks, uk tanks, us tanks and planes geeman tanks, ifvs all gonna be inside uk.
Why even reseach any nation if you can just do uk and research the stuff of all major nations at once???

As i pointed out there is no gaps.
Uk is getting german modified challys from now on as well

And UK is spoiled for air, but here you are demanding more and more.
Uk has a lot of options left to, ground has some 3-4 good mbt options even as well

the F-14 firing aim-120 image is F-14A
the rest are mock-ups
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it says provision (cancelled) from the same document

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Hi smin i see u work overtime so if u dont mind i will join the party

I just want to know
there is any plans to add israeli munitions any time soon?
Ata missiles ,agms,spice bombs?

Also there is any plans to add new spaa as well?

Thx

As cool as it would be to have the F-14D get AMRAAMs, I kinda hope they don’t add them.

I’ve discussed this elsewhere, but, assuming the F-14D does not come with AIM-120A/Bs, we would effectively have:

  • (12.7) F-14A “Early”: AIM-9H, AIM-7F, AIM-54A, AWG-9
  • (13.0) F-14B: AIM-9L, AIM-7M, AIM-54C, AWG-9
  • (13.3) F-14D: AIM-9M, AIM-7M/P, AIM-54C, AN/APG-71

The biggest issue here is the F-14D’s BR placement. In my opinion, the F-14B should already have AIM-9Ms seeing as it is 13.0 (the same BR as the F-15A, Gripen-A, Su-27, etc.), so the F-14D being a direct upgrade being 13.3 makes sense but is definitely an awkward position.

If we were to get AIM-7Ps (which are just 7Ms but with DL) then it might ease the tension, but honestly it wouldn’t do enough for the F-14D in my opinion. The additions of the AN/APG-71 and AIM-9Ms are great, but I doubt those are enough to allow it to comfortably sit at 13.3.

Ideally, in my opinion, Gaijin would move the F-14A/B back down (or at least decompress around them) so that the F-14D gets a proper BR placement relative to its peers (F-15A, Su-27, etc.). 13.3 seems too high in my opinion, but the 9Ms and new all-aspect PD radar make it a definitive upgrade over the F-14B (so they shouldn’t be the same BR).

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They announced already started work at the next Generation spaas which will be stronger.
With vehicle that if necesary have multiple parts etc

Yes but this will take time while israel must get new spaa since the best is 10.0 if nit the 9.3

And israel has few options before next gen spaa
If next gen will come(patriot s30)then the israeli equivlant is iron doom or maybe even david sling it will be stupid

Why not add the spyder or admas?
U allready have p4 and derby in game
I dont understand gaijin man


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Then, Do you also think that Harrier GR.9 should get AIM-120 & Blue Vixen upgrade and Brimstone capability?
British Parliament planned to upgrade them but dropped out due to money.
Just like the AIM-120 plan for F-14D.

I think, As long as it is cancelled, No AIM-120 for F-14D.
At least, not for the TT version of F-14D.

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Plus it means more representation on Suomi in war thunder :D

In that case, may I ask if the mobility issues on FV107 Scimitar are being actioned? It still steers like a wheeled vehicle, and has dreadful high-end engine power.

Cosmetic and historical issues aside, it does not perform in the similar manner to FV102 Striker that it should.

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Next gen isnt specialy patriot.

Isralian spyder would already fall under next gen aa well. They will come this year. Thats as soon as you will get

you just gotta be patient a bit more

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Would rather just see more Finnish vehicles on Finland but to each their own.

Ideally yes, however they have proven unwilling to add anything to the subtree for over a year now so i’m not too optimistic about the future of our vehicles in the future, besides we are still missing basic additions like a Patria or T-55 Marksman which could be kitbashed overnight

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Add it to my list of problems with the worst subtree in warthunder. Still funny how they haven’t added anything good to Finland outside the Leo Marksman lol. The only decent addition since the entire tree misses the mark. Air is entirely worthless and only added to force players to buy a premium to get to rank 8. Even 10 minute search would’ve shown the gaps their air tree couldve filled instead of the low effort tree we actually got. Imo its sad but i think Finland with how poorly it was handled, never should of been TT and only premium, considering the entire air tree is located in my wallet…

doesn’t help that they keep throwing our only unique vehicles in as squadron/prems, saddens me to see the BMP-2MD locked behind 2-3 months of squadron points

BMP-2MD is worthless, 8.7 with weaker armor, heavier thus slower, and you only get 1 belt of apds with no missile to rely on. Imo give it Mecar and it would be a okay 8.7, as it stands rn its pretty trash, only saving grace is that 2A42 is literally lazer accurate at range unlike the 30mm bushmaster.

Gaijin has no idea what they should be adding to Finland to try and bolster lineups and its been evident since day 1, they couldn’t even get the roundels right on the XS or the leopards, we had to wait until the Netherlands came in before they even fixed the vehicle.