Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Impossible

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A sable topic here during the down time? That’s an impossibly.

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Not going to happen unless sweden was chosen for the dreams come true event, that is really the only way i see it being added in any real capacity. Realistically i think its more likely to see the AKV 151 eventually come in a future update since it has a better HP/T ratio than the Bkan while also having a more amored chassis thanks to the Kranvagn being its base.

I don’t see what issue can be with the reintroduction of KV-1B into Finnish line, we’ve already had event vehicles later coming as a regular one in another TT. For example this one:

and this:

Creating some “rules” sounds more like an excuse to seize heavy tanks options for that TT behind paywall.

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She’s beautiful. I’m also a lover of French aviation

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Talk to Smin about it, i tried to understand why that vehicle had to be exclusive and his reply was because its on the market and those players come first essentially. Honestly he’ll probably explain it to you but all you need to know is its not going to happen unfortunately, again wouldve been a better vehicle than the 1942 considering its 4.7 and has no lineup and Finland has a 4.0 lineup. Regardless Gaijins stance is that Finland won’t get its vehicles, same with the Hawk.

Again its part of the reason Finland imo was and still is a bad choice, it did decent when the t34 was at 3.7 so you actually had a F2P lineup but moving up to 4.0 kills it, Finland is a subtree that ground wise couldve been more unique and filled real gaps with vehicles sweden just doesn’t have. Unfortunately thats not the case, air is honestly the most redundant thing to ever be created, not a single gap was filled with vehicles sweden didn’t already have proper options with but thats me rambling stuff I’ve said a million times about Finland.

(I need a counter for how many times ive ranted about Finland lol, gotta be over a 100 by now.)

Props why the single events are like 750K for the market since the ones tha don’t have that limit are around 20 to 30 GJN while the said 750K ones are normally 70 odd.

The higher the limit the higher the prize tag

Still, i feel the unique aspect is that its on Germany should be enough. I dont understand why they would continue to lock every single unique vehicle to Finland behind either another nation or through event/premium.

Also TT KV-1B could potentially mean we see it move up to 4.3

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Yeah and don’t forget the H-75 too that’s an easy C&P but I do like the idea of events stuff being early access in way.

If you want to play Y now you have to play this nation but if you wait for that Y operator to be a sub or nation then you can play it in it’s proper place later on.

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I said Hawk lol

Chinese LVT placed in US TT I mentioned above is also on the market. Anyway I think if popular enough suggestion comes from the Finnish/Swedish playerbase, they will think again about its reintroduction.

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event F-15SG (428th FS) in US, then full RSAF one for Japan?

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Original Forum post by Smin of which now the plan has changed to never.

As you can see the market players come first, which is why its perfectly fine to bandaid the problem with a heavy tank (kungstiger) nobody asked for, you could search all my posts and you will never see me say it was a good idea, it devalues a unique vehicle from Germany which is not a good idea, if the Kungtiger were very different maybe it wouldve been acceptable but as it is i dont agree with it.

Being able to recycle wagers is the thing I’ve been looking forward to the most. Fortunately, text for it was datamined recently.

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Well there would be no limitations just a hard copy but yeah something like that. Then no one is really missing out nor anything locked away

there arent any limitations in that idea, its just that the 428th FS is a joint USAF-RSAF training squadron for F-15SG, and for event stuff like this theyve made it squadron specific. helps to differentiate US vs Japan F-15SG at a glance (not that there will be any actual gameplay difference)

i also think it just sounds better when you specify the squadron

US could also get F-15SA 12-1002

https://www.af.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2000416443/

YF-22 shooting missile

Problem is thats not how it works, maybe the old nation premiums like the Peten, strv 81, magach era ect ect but thats not how it works. What ends up happening is the sub nation then lacks proper vehicles that could actually help the TT.

Orders too right? And do we know the exchange rate yet?

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You keep reposting this thinking it proves your point, but it doesn’t. Yes, it is the official position that Canada and Australia are not a subtree. But that’s not really what I’m trying to argue. To be clear, we’re discussing whether or not future Australian/Canadian vehicles derived from USA/German designs should go to the UK tree or to the tree of their respective manufacturer.

I’m saying it makes the most sense for those vehicles to go to the UK tree based on precedent, and because Gaijin seems to consistently put vehicles from CAN and AUS in the UK tree more than anywhere else. Yes, it’s not an official subtree, but it seems like their home is naturally there.

You’re saying (and correct me if I’m wrong) that the manufacturing nation is the default method for Gaijin determining what vehicles go where outside of subtrees, so therefore other nations have dibs on CAN/AUS vehicles that are not based on UK designs or domestically produced.

But what does Smin actually say about this issue in this image? According to him, Gaijin determines that vehicles go:
“Wherever they are most needed or most relevant”
“Wherever most appropriate, most suited, or needed most”

Note that he doesn’t say anything about manufacturer or development. What he’s saying is that it’s basically up to Gaijin’s discretion where they think the vehicles fit best.

Now, we could get into a long and fruitless argument about whether the vehicles we’re discussing are “most appropriate, suited or needed most” in one tree or the other, but it would be pointless because we don’t work for Gaijin, and it seems like all evidence suggests that they make the decision on a case-by-case basis. They’re not following some hard rule like you seem to claim. If I might make one argument for my case, it’s that as time has gone on, Gaijin has made more vehicle placement decisions based on geopolitics (like subtrees) than they have based on vehicle development nations, which is why I think my stance is slightly more likely.

Which things are important and which aren’t? Is that how Gaijin sees it or is that just how you read those vehicles?

While I agree, I think there’s a pretty big difference in claiming an “unofficial sub tree” exists based on one vehicle (like the Brazilian AMX) and over 20 vehicles in the case of the Commonwealth nations.

Didn’t we get confirmation that any further Argentinian vehicles would also go to Germany? Even if it’s not a sub tree, that means something right? Again, correct me if I’m wrong here.

Lol, lmao even

The Australian Boxer or Canadian LAV vehicles would give the UK a wheeled IFV platform, something they don’t currently have. Either of the Leopards already available to Germany would have definitely helped the UK’s MBT lineups with higher mobility options.

How? I’d really like to know

This is a fair point, and is the main problem with adding exported vehicles into different tech trees. I would argue as long as the ratio of export/operator vehicles to indigenous designs remains small, then this problem is more or less mitigated. I don’t think the UK’s top tier would actually be that much better off with all of the Challengers, plus all of the Leopards and Abrams variants. Filling the gaps that do exist with unique vehicles would make sense.

The other thing is that, at least when it comes to Ground forces, Germany is spoiled for choice. There are a lot of indigenous German vehicles that could be the Rank VII ground premium, for example. Same goes for the AIM’s squadron slot for the USA. Both nations have nearly endless potential from their own catalogues.

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