Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

if its on land its a different designation to not confuse the paper pen pushers in paper work

Kashtan only uses the missile from pantsir system, and uses 2xAK-630 for close-in

The C-RAM other name is the LPWS (Land Phalanx Weapons System) it’s literally just a land phalanx CIWS

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then find us a proper definition with a proper source that proves us wrong, the definition you gave us precisely proves our point

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your own sources you pushed out state the same thing panstir M is naval ciws while S1 and S2 are point defence air batterys

Have you heard of a dual role weapons system?

CIWS role is also a type of point defence btw

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IT’S STILL A PANTSIR, DOESN’T MATTER IF IT’S ON A SHIP, A CAR, A TRUCK, A TRAIN, A BUNKER OR EVEN A PLANE

How is this so hard to understand?!?

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holy _ bro the definition of ciws is precisely point defense anti air

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“A close-in weapon system is a point-defense weapon system for detecting and destroying short-range incoming missiles and enemy aircraft which have penetrated the outer defenses”

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**Pantsir-M is a russian close in weapons system for naval use
The Pantsir (Russian: Панцирь, lit. ‘[body] armour’) missile system is a family of self-propelled, medium-range surface-to-air missile and anti-aircraft artillery systems. Three types of vehicles make up one system: a missile launcher, a radar truck and a command post. Starting with the Pantsir-S1 (Russian: Панцирь-С1, NATO reporting name SA-22 Greyhound ) as the first version, it is produced by KBP Instrument Design Bureau of Tula, Russia, and is the successor to the Tunguska M1.

Pantsir-M [2] (Russian: Панцирь-М, lit. ‘Carapace-M’) is a Russian jamming-resistant naval close-in weapon system (CIWS) which entered service in 2018.[3] Pantsir-M will replace Kashtan-M systems in Russian Navy.[4][5][6][7]

According to Rostec CEO Sergey Chemezov, Pantsir-M’s destructive power is three to four times higher than Kashtan-M’s.

can’t wait to see a pantsir on a plane

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does this mean mig 27 is a ciws now ?

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All of these are Pantsirs.

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What’re you trying to prove? You do realize the CIWS role is AAA right

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How about we just stop

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Mate, just get lost already

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thats still a ciwis

That’s my point

if its a ciws then why not call it that ? they call c-ram

No, this is панцирь (shell)
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