I meant high tier, but my point still stands.
The Sheer degree that thing outperforms most other 10.0/10.3 IFVs is insane. If it does not need to go up in BR, then many others need to move down by just as much
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IFVs simply aren’t meta at top tier. Why take an autocannon that takes 5+ hits to kill (requiring you to be exposed while firing) when you can kill literally anything in one hit with an MBT.
Would be 11.0 then? MBT are there but not top tier
and yet the 2S38 can happily one shot a large number of top tier MBTs quite happily. Why would you take a tank that has a 5+ second reload when you can take something that has an auto-cannon.
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If we’re using your definition of top tier, then you’re suggesting it should be similarly balanced to the HSTV-L?
Leopard 1A5 vs 2S38.
2S38 is superior in each and every single way despite being a Light Vehicle vs an MBT.
Light Vehicles are suppossed to be sidegrades to MBTs and Support vehicles, not vehicles that entirely outclass the MBTs in every single way like 2S38 currently does because it’s facing vehicles 60 years older.
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So I guess the M41D should be 10.3 then because it can penetrate top tier MBTs an occasionally one tap them.
I think it’s worse than HSTVL so 11.0 would work imo
I once got 1 shotted through the ERA on the Challenger 2 OES.
Well, it’s also an entire BR higher. So yeah if it’s superior it makes sense. I mean what is a Valentine gonna do against a Sherman?
But it does not make sense that they are even in the same matchmaker at all on the first place.
2S38 should be 11.0, or, at the very least, 10.7.
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Quite a lot actually
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And so can the Leopard 1A5 against a 2S38
It actually makes a lot of sense. The 2S38 shouldn’t be facing max BR.
And so can a Leopard 1A5 against a Strv 122, but that doesn’t mean it’s fine that they would face each other.
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I destroyed a Sherman in a Matilda, I’m sure a Valentine would far better.
Heck, iirc the 105 Sherman and last UK Valentine share the same BR.
You’re the one trying to prove the 2S38 should move.
Yes, because it makes no sense that 1960s MBTs are forced to face a 2020s Light Tank that is faster, more agile, has better gun handling, better thermals, better optics and even survivability and has an autocanon that shoots shells each of which can obliterate them no matter where they hit.
Such an advanced Light Tank should be a support vehicle and sidegrade to more modern MBTs; not a destroyer of 1960s tanks.
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It’s so much worse than the HSTV-L that just 2 BRs isn’t enough space between them. And I don’t think HSTV-L should be 12.3