Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Prediction: Do you think the leaked Su-30SM will get newer missiles?

  • Yes, Gaijin will give it R-77-1
  • Yes, Gaijin will give it R-73M (RVV-MD)
  • No, even though it needs more advanced missiles
  • No, doesn’t need newer missiles because thrust-vectoring and PESA radar will be enough
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It’s just a genenal disignation we have in-game (same as with AMX, still not fully clear if it’s A-11A or A-11B), they all are “F-2000A”, variants differ by tranches mainly.
So far Italy has 3 tranches and 6 prototypes:

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so,where is my ISR f16c agm65d?

Yeah, Romanian F-16 would be cool as a later addition with advanced missiles it uses in service (AIM-9X and AIM-120C-8) and A2G capabilities. Even if Italian ADF finally gets its irl weapons (like AIM-120B and AIM-9L/I-1), it will still make a lot of difference.

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OK

  • A-6E SWIP : come again ?
  • MiG-23 (squadron) : capture or other country send to USA ?
  • IAI Dagger : Air-to-Air Missile Shafrir 2 Mk.4 better Nasher S (IAF) ?
  • Germany VTOL aircraft ?
  • I don’t want czechoslovakia/czech Republic sunb tree for soviet/russia tech tree
    But Gripen C from czech similar to JAS 39C EBS HU (HuAF)
  • MiG-29M (9-15) : the early aircraft pre-order rank 8 for USSR/RU ?
  • Rafale EH : similar to french Rafale F4.1 standard, But I’m not sure pre or post integrade indian weapons
  • T-50TH : Japan lack attack aircraft top tier. T-50TH Phase 3 or Phase 4 ?
  • XF-2A : the early aircraft pre-order for japan ?
  • Su-30MK2 : PLANAF or IDAF ?
  • F-16AM : romanian F-16AM MLU better Belgian ?
  • MiG-29 : MiG-23 or MiG-29 from angola, but angola as new sub tree for france ?
  • F-35 : F-35 Draken from danish
  • F-5E : chilean F-15E basic or F-5E plus (p) or F-5E Tiger III Plus
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Ehh, I know where uwanna go with the KF41s
But italy genuinely is buying more Kf41s and has their own variant right now for fast delivery.

And the american one is still in competitio., dont think we even saw a real picture of it yet. Would only be considered a paper vehicle still

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L-39 only for russia? why

east germany had it too, and many other countries

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Lmao no we didnt

American mig23 (MiG-23MS) is too bad it only has R-3S/R and mig21 radar

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If they already have an F-16, what’s the harm in another?

How so? It doesn’t have any of the (WT-relevant) ACOL upgrades of the A-11B. No LITENING, no JDAMs, no new cockpit.

He made the list to piss off people lol

Is cockpit different for ACOL? I didn’t know that.
I mean in the game it’s called just “AMX” (If nothing has been changed).
Also weirdly enough B variant suggestion is listed as implemented while A is still opened.

Spoiler
  • AMX International A-11

    • A-11B Ghibli【Suggestion (2.33) “Air Superiority”
  • AMX International A-11

And correct me if I’m wrong, but in the files it’s called “A-11B”.

From Leonardo:

This ACOL upgrade, initiated in 2003 and completed in July 2012, involved adding an Inertial/GPS navigation system, new high-precision weaponry. The Litening pod was integrated for target illumination and laser targeting, while the RecceLite became the main reconnaissance sensor, with the ability to take and transmit real-time photographs and videos via a broadband digital data link. Friend/Foe communication and identification systems were also upgraded to the NGIFF (New Generation Identification Friend or Foe) standard, and all cockpit panels on the single-seater aircraft were made compatible with pilots’ night vision (NVG) systems. To enable pilots to handle these new operational capabilities effectively, the cockpit was updated with a modern multifunctional LCD colour display supported by a powerful Computer Symbol Generator (CSG) with Digital Map functions. The first ACOL was delivered to the operational squadrons in August 2007.

Please don’t get me started on Gaijin and their vehicle names. They regularly conflate company and military designations.
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amx

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Well, thanks) Honestly I thought that A-11A would be implemented differently to the game, based on manual available online, limited to just unguided ground ordnance (kinda like “Tornado IDS”), while A-11B would have all possible options.

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They may very well do such a “U-turn” in the future, but for now, the AMX in-game corresponds to the A-11A.

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Ghibli Is the company nickname actually, the military one (at least the one used by the pilots) happen to be Topone (wich mean something like “big mouse”).

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The AMX wasn’t assigned the designation A-11A until 2009 though when Italy implemented a standard alphanumeric designation system for all aircraft.
So it’s reasonably for gaijin to call the early variant AMX unless it has some specific post-2009 features. It was AMX for the first 20 years of service.

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