I agree, the Gripen-A would have been a cool addition with the F-16A and MiG-29 back in 2022.
Then the Gripen-C would have been a cool counterpart to the F-16C and MiG-29SMT.
I dont see how that’s a MICA-IR tease. Given that the Pylons that host the MICA-EM also host the MICA-IR
It’s likely either an oversight, the way the actual interface is designed for clarity purposes, or they took it from a later modeled Rafale.
I agree, so I don’t see why the Gripen-A would have to be a higher BR if it lost 9Ms and HMD and got an even worse FM like AgentZombie was saying
hence why I said
F-16 also can’t flare anywhere near as many missiles and is fighting a plane with SARHs and a fantastic radar
If the fight ever comes down to a dogfight where IR missiles or guns dictate the engagement something went wrong.
That’s like when Gaijin tried to justify the Belgian F-16A at 13.3 against Fox-3 slingers just because it had a good FM and 9Ms
That’s great, but this vehicle is fighting vehicles that don’t have any reason to give you your advantage.
Hell the entire reason the F-16A went down was because it was performing poorly apparently, against planes that fly worse but have radar missiles.
It unfortunately just didn’t end up that way and so again the Gripen C is one of the weaker 13.7’s definitely not the weakest but you are slower than everyone at your own BR and below meaning you cant climb for ARH and have to play very carefully because of your 6 hardpoints. Id rather play my SM because at least i can be more risky with my missiles and im faster. Besides R77 are better than 120 at the ranges im using R77. Still a horrible missile lol
If we were putting it at 12.3 it wouldn’t have BOL
This is why I said
IF they nerfed the FM I wouldn’t be surprised if they moved it down a little.
Its looks almost identical to other fake leak lists that you could find on reddit and such just different vehicles
I dont see it getting another nerf FM wise. It already has a problem where its at and getting another nerf wont drop them in BR. They’ll simply stay the same BR but be even worse. Plenty of vehicles are like that.
It just depends on whether they want to go for a more historical route (they likely don’t) or if they want to balance it out (they more than likely prefer this).
So yeah it probably won’t get a FM nerf unless someone comes out with good sources on it.
Gripen E will likely inherit all the problems of the C/A and be another miserable plane to fly given gaijins track record
I’m confused, how is the gripen underperforming at 13.7?
The South African one definitely (because Derbys are just not good)
But uhhh it’s definitely out performing the F-16s at its BR (of which there is plenty) as well as the J-11A, and has a fantastic radar
I get that it’s not fast enough to climb to BVR fight but none of the 13.7s are in the face of the 14.0s they fight every single game.
As in how the Gripen specifically is struggling here, because all 13.7s feel ass to play against the 14.0s
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The nice thing about the E is that it will get a much better engine and way more missiles. That effectively fixes the issues that the A/C had minus Gaijin’s poor FM modeling.
It is quite funny to me that the F-16D Barak II got moved down to 13.3 but the SAAF Gripen-C didn’t. That’s kinda wild imo.
it’s more funny that the J-11A didn’t get moved down when that is easily the worst 13.7 in the game
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That too - literally worse than the 27SM in every possible way lmaooo
- Radar? Half the DL channels
- Engines? Weaker
- Empty weight? Much higher
- RWR? Still the SPO-15 analog radar
- Missiles? Missing the centerline dual rack config (-2x R-77s)
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listen man, it has a MAWS
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Except we dont know that it wont be gimped just like the C and A are. The same amount of overperforming is due to gaijin own engine with Delta wings. They cant fix that without nerfing all deltas. So again new engine wont help it if its aoa is still artificially limited. I can pull harder and get my nose on in a F15 E before a gripen can because they can turn more thsn me.
dont forget it has 2 less R77s too
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Guess the players are doing to well (sarcasm it should be 13.3 or 13.0)