Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

You’ll be that either way if you sit in a heli while there are enemy planes up, doesn’t matter what kind of weapons you carry.

And? You either engage with them by baiting out their missiles or you leave your heli. If you can’t be bothered to do that you’ll die to other SAMs just the same.

Yeah, that is exactly why helis shouldn’t have access to FnF missiles like that.

do we got any leaks ??

I would climb and nuke as well, but there still are people that go low and try strafing instead and depending on the map that can work just as well.

Everyone :(

It’s impossible to counter C*S like this without FnFs… they pop for 0.3 seconds at ranges too close to engage and get 6 free kills within 5 seconds before going back to hugging the trees. It’s the new meta.

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they are too big and too powerful. if looking for similar things, I think Type 625e or the newest version of LD35 are ok, both with IR FNF FB-10A missile. or Yitian ll, with both ARH and IR FNF missile(should be TY-20I/R).

Just like, you know, the Ariete.

I would always pick the CR2E over the Ariete AMV, any day of the week.

I wish i could see what these vehicles were.

Odds are theyre not actually tree hugging in the literal sense, rather the line of sight AA gets is just ass.

Because i cant see someone marking targets that fast to get 3-5 kills so fast in a low alt run.

It’s hard to counter that even with FnF SAMs at times with how much Stingers love to just do their own thing.

Yeah What type ?

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I didn’t know about those, I like them!

As you said, SAMs made to intercept targets 200km away aren’t the best suited for the meta. The best SAMs for the game are those specialised on intercepting targets from Point Blank ranges to up to 20 km.

My favourite part is that they also have guns; ideal to assassinate C*Ssers who fly past the battlefield area hugging the trees too close for SAMs to be able to engage!

Yeah i dont see fnf AA fixing that. Given the issue seems to be the atrocious LOS SPAA has to work with sometimes

Yup, some maps are just pure hell for AA players.

cough Sweden and Advance to Rhine cough

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It’s still better to be able to fire at an enemy as long as you see it for 1 second and having the missile go after them, compared to having to be locked on them for 10 seconds and losing lock the very second you lose line of sight.

9.3 IR short-range FnFs not being ideal doesn’t mean advanced 12.0 systems wouldn’t fare much better!

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Oh not arguing that

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what about the road map being pushed back constantly many things should have been done by now

yes, FB-10A is 18km, with IR+DL,



Yitian ll is 20km range, with DL+ARH/IR
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Top tier photoshop job ngl

That is the normal schedule, the end of the year always has more updates than the start

Tbh SPAA will always be at the disadvantage, i just dont feel the disadvantage should be as absurd as it is currently.

SPAA

  • limited on where it can be
  • Jet knows where you are for the most part thanks to advanced RWR
  • cant dictate the engagement (you have to fight on the jets terms)

But CAS shouldnt just be out ranging SPAA to the ridiculous extent it currently is. The Pantsir-S1 is the best SPAA in the game, and it still isnt enough to combat the CAS horde. Its best feature is the fact it can intercept munitions.

Edit: to really hammer that point home for anyone who doesnt play russia. The pantsir is THE BEST AA, and its still not good enough against the heavy hitters of top tier. Let that one sink in.

Edit 2: another big disadvantage of SPAA vs Jets i forgot to list. The Jet not only knows roughly where you are, he knows exactly WHAT you are. As an SPAA, you really dont know what youre facing until you see it in the kill feed, or manually ID it.

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God I wish all nations had access to some kind of CIWS

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