There’s no reason to believe this one isn’t fake.
9K37,Fake
Man… And here I was hoping for a Mirage IIIEX
Would be a good rank 8 premium.
Erm… That’s still a Mirage III
IMO should be tech tree between IIIC/IIIE and F1
Feels a lot like the Bison though. Gen 2 airframe, gen 2 engine, gen 4 avionics.
If it could carry MICA’s then I’d say it’s a solid Rank 8 premium if the Bison is.
Judging from pictures in the suggestion, it seems to be a Mirage F1 camouflaged as Mirage III
Only meaningful changes would be radar (Cyrano IV) and engine (Atar 9K)
The RWR would be same as one on IIIE (You can see the pointy antenna on the leading edge of rudder, not blocky one as found on F1CT)
Unless it can somehow get S.530F that F1 carried, it would be 11.3 at best
If it doesn’t get MICAs, then yeah sure I’d agree it’d be a rank 7. If it does get them, solid Rank 8.
I know the list is probably fake but at some point we’ll see IIING/EX’s I suppose. Suggestions won’t necessarily be followed to the letter so we can see it with the load outs the devs decide it gets.
Why MICAs?
The suggestion never mentions them
As far as equipment goes, the aircraft is able to carry anything that the Mirage IIIs and 5s in French service were able to carry. Theoretically speaking the Cyrano IV also allowed the aircraft to fire the Super 530F that the Mirage F1 carried, but as far as we know, that was never done in practice. More realistically the aircraft would carry the R530 and R530E (though they were badly dated at this point), R550 magic and possibly magic II. It also had access to the RPK bomb adapters that were introduced on the Mirage 5F, these allowed the mid wing hardpoint to carry up to 4 bombs of 250kg.
Don’t mix up IIIEX with IIING
Also IIIEX first flew in 1988 while MICA trials began in 1991
It’s basically a hybrid of Mirage III and Mirage F1
EDIT: It does appear to get Sherloc RWR at least which is a big plus
Ah I see. Then it would indeed be a rank 7.
It most definitely would be either 11.3 or 11.7
(Considering that Kfir C.2 gets Python 3s, IIIEX could get Magic 2 at 11.7)
I think the F1 is at 11.7 so without better missiles it should indeed not exceed it.
Would the IIING be able to carry ARH’s?
If my hunch is correct that all rank 8 premiums will get ARH missiles at some point then this would be a solid contender.
The Mirage F1 is 12.0.
I’m not sure, I can’t find suggestion from old forums
There was suggestion for IIING but I highly doubt it was capable of firing MICAs
I just played it in a 10.7 to 11.7 bracket.
edit: I suppose you mean RB
You must have been playing SB, then.
Correct, I don’t really know the RB br’s
No it can’t. The IIING was mostly an update to keep the Mirage III platform relevant in ground strike or asymmetrical scenarios.
If you’re looking for a French jet with ARH that can serve as premium, you’re probably looking for the F1 EM VI
Thx for the clarification.
Yeah that’d be a good one then that fits my hunch of “rank 8 premiums will get ARH when all nations have them”. Too bad it’s another F1, would be a bit boring to play so with that in mind I’d hope for something that feels more fresh. Having said that, it wouldn’t be a terrible pick.
There’s really nothing else French that fits your requirements afaik. France only ever developed the MICA as ARH and that was in turn only used on the mentioned F1, Mirage 2000-5 and Rafale.
Belgium has nothing more to offer with ARH which leaves only a Dutch F-16 as alternative.