I mean wt mobile you can launch harpoons from a Type 23 at bismarck and yamato lol
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Dunkerque class with specially the Strasbourg would help a LOT against actual meta, more than the open ammorack old dread we have.
Richelieu/Jean Bart i hope to see them with both USA then late French AA refit.
Would be on par with Bismarck, even if some people would call me crazy to compare them to their overhyped ship.
And yep, some of our 6.7 really deserve 6.3, if not 6.0
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Meanwhile, Elizabeth has weaker protected magazines than Nagato. But we don’t have Nagato itself. Only Mutsu without modernization. But if they give Nagato 1944, then there is thick armor, especially the ammunition magazines will have armor under 400+ with slopes. And also the Type 91 shell. And also the reload of 410 mm will be 21.5 seconds. Well, there will be a lot of air defense for 44
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from what i have seen frigates with ASM seem pretty balanced any kind of high calibre HE absolutely rinses their crew but the ASM can also do a ton of damage even to battleships
Glass canon, sound cool.
also seems like they have systems for frigates to fight each other with you being able to deploy chaff to try and spoof the missiles, not sure if CIWS work or not tho, they also seem to have guided torpedoes
Would be nice, just for the visually cool effect of point defence
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Strasbourg would definitely help. But i’m not convinced she would be as competitive as something like Richelieu.
Though I do really believe Lyon would be the best possible option right now. Armour comparable to British ships, decent enough guns and lots of them in the hybrid twin-quad turret so lots of redundancy and relatively deep ammunition storage for some of the guns.
If they are ever going to add a paper ship. Lyon would be my pick and I don’t even have French naval grinded out and believe me the UK has some incredibly cool and technically feasible designs, but France needs it more.
So far they have only ever added ships in 1 configuration, so i’d expect either post-USA refit or Post-war refit but not both.
IMO they should add Lyon now, (two of them or maybe Lyon herself and then Normandie), then Dunkerque and Strasbourg, then Richelieu and Jean Bart, and then finally the Alsace class in the best possible configuration.
Yes two of these class’ are paper, but I do not care, France needs it, noone else does, so just bend the rules.
If German ships actually flooded due to their designers poor understanding of reserve buyouncy it wouldn’t be an issue.
6.3 at the lowest, 6.0 is Invincible territory and Bretagne and Lorraine are definitely better than Dreadnought at 6.3 but also definitely worse than Marlborough (though to be fair on par with Orion also at 6.7),
tbf that is just gonna be the issue late war BBs will face missile boats, and tbf if CIWS work right as long as you work with your team you can stay in their point defence bubble
QUICK, chant SABRA SABRA SABRA
My goodness please
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Oh i’ve never said that at all !
Dunkerque and strasbourg can come in the game right now, but Richelieu/Jean Bart are more on part with Bismark and similar, really not the same things. Even if they are my fav ships, they can wait (as long they don’t wait enough to be DoA)
Richelieu class is way superior to the Dunkerque one ^^
I hope they accept more, but if i have to choose i want those juicy dual 57mm bofors refit with the Dual Purpose 152mm :p
Sound good to me, but Dunkerque/Stras can come right now too.
End of the day, naval is perhaps the TTs that need the most decompression now.
That it can be day and night between a 6.3 to 6.7 ship or 6.7 to a 7.0 is really bad.
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Yes QE class shears off some raw magazine protection in exchange for having the magazines lower, which I would be tempted to say is a better tradeoff but keep in mind QE is a 1913 design and Nagato is a 1917(?) design when finished.
I don’t really understand why they chose Mutsu over Nagato, though I don’t really know how they differ as built. But I also don’t understand why they added Nagato class at all.
The Amagi’s or Tosa’s would be the better choice for now as they have thinner armour and also no potential to get any better AA.
The Nagato’s however can later on get better shells, vastly improved AA and vastly improved armour that gives Japan an option for a WW2 level battleship that is not just Yamato coming in to steamroll everyone.
So I really don’t understand what their plan is here.
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I would also say though I do not believe it is correct to compare the QE class to a late Nagato class which is why I compared her to Mutsu as in-game.
QE was firstly 1913 and then after that treaty limited to being within 5,000 tonnes of her original displacement when refitted. Whereas Nagato is a 1917 design, which then broke/strongly tested the treaty (depending on the source) when reconstructed.
If I was to compare a RN ship with an IJN ship of this Era I would be comparing the reconstructed Nagato’s with the 16-16.5" G-3 design and the Nelson’s AA refit as G-3 would have been similar if not better due to more space (G-3 went down to 16" to attempt to meet the anticipated treaty but assuming the UK does not try and meet the treaty). G-3 holds up much more favourably here.
Honestly never understood this treaty things, looks like almost everybody don’t really stick to it and cheat one way or another.
Richelieu class seems to be the most perfectly minded ship that goes along this treaty (but i’m probably biased :p)
I meant vs their eventual competition but yeah I do understand what you mean.
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Dunkerque not gonna annihilate scharnorst, but could still add more tools than the food-boat we have for now. That’s a point enough for me, more tools.
And i think Richelieu could do some hard slap to it, so it’s “too much” for it to be added now.
(but i would not mind sending the German player who have THE meta ships since years under the sea without any pity)
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I hope in the future I will see the battleship Richelieu of the 1945 modernization, as in the photo below. But also 1943 is also possible. But certainly not 1940
My favorite battleship of France from these years of modernization
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Same class but i’m more of a Jean Bart lover :p
Can’t wait to go full bow ahead of the enemy team at ~32knts with thoses quad :D
Me looking at the bill thinking, what if I could sell the stupid 292…
hi :)
