yup that sure sounds like Powder alloyed steel to me
I got a Knife made from that stuff
still a pure PR name
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principle is similar but the difference is that it has molecular unions like a kind of net that allows for better impact absorption, and obviously its much harder but this also makes it brittle under higher forces, which, yeah in principle APFSDS should pen easier but due to high impact absorption the shell penetration diminishes more than normal armor, better ballistic protection overall than RHA
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You’r late, it was corrected not so long ago :D
@Smin1080p would you happen to know if the gramophone music was made in the game studio or if its on youtube?
id like to hear a full version :)
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I don’t think I quite understand this part. So the whole tanks structure is NCA, while external armor (composites and the covers?) are not? Seems a bit arbitrary considering specifically those externally placed composites could benefit greatly from the nanocrystalline steel while basically negating the performance drawback it has, which is higher spall.
While there is an emphasis on reducing spall for the armor of the tank, I’d still say it’s safe to assume that it spalls more than RHA would, and the engineers probably considered that in the design as well.
that looks like some fine Martensite to me
no the composite does not contain NCA since in principle its less effective than using NERA since NCA seems more effective as ballistic protection than effectivity against penetration, basically putting 2 layers of this materials or 1 layer with composite behind this material should make the protection more effective in practice, since the material its more brittle with high energy impacts but absorbs a lot of energy tanks to the strenght and the mechanical resistance it has, wich effectively makes it better as outside armor than part of the composite wich NERA acts better due to it being normally made of rubber wich its more flexible and not brittle
they chose a new steel, nothing more
Tank armor is evolving at the same rate as metallurgy for Indistrial uses and there is no point in acting like it’s an entirely new secret technology even if the exact contents of this armor are classified
I wouldn’t say that, it’s a fairly descriptive name for what it is, which is steel with a low grain size.
The only PR thing about is that it does sound like words thrown around as some sci-fi movie pseudo science, but that is more of a coincidence than intended.
not all countries are using it, the PUMA uses NCA and america has been investigating the use of it due to its ballistic protection capacities
and since it’s most likely a Powder alloyed steel that also explains why it’s only used by few nations
there’s a patent on that process, it lies with the Sandvik company in sweden and the stuff is on a whole new level of expensive for steel, you’re looking at at least 2-3 times the usual price for the material alone
We’re surprisingly close to a part three without a dovbleg lmao
yes we kinda got closer on the Deathmisser Soon™ scale tho
We’ve reached the just a tad early times so next Tuesday it is!
The real question is will we get to part 4 before devblogs next time :thinking:
nay, I fear the fighting and arguing spirit here has died
usually you’d just need a word to get lot’s of comments here and now you really need to drag every conversation along
hopefully we’ll see it revived by the next devblog
yeah info its pretty limited on it tho
Then I guess we were saying similar things here, with it being exclusively used for external armor.
Though my point about the composites was that they are removable, external pieces of armor. They are placed outside of the actual tank, but separated by other armor pieces. So that’s why it seemed logical to use this material as part of the composites.
Spoiler
For example the image of the hull composite shows it as a steel frame with NERA inside
This is then placed outside of the fighting compartment, separated by more armor
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kinda feels weird to see a tank hull at this stage in production
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I meant the armor layout, as in how thick the armor is, what shape it is as well as what type of material considering the drawbacks that NCA does come with don’t really make it seem like it’s all of it. Gaijins depiction right now isn’t based on any more sources than we have now, and a lot of things are either not proven, or even disproven by sources.
So it absolutely is secret technology, in the sense that we don’t have sufficient information on it. Even the one existing image of the hull by itself is edited and censored in some areas, so what we have to work with is very limited.
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yeah i was wrong on some stuff here. I’ll have to re-clarify. So basically, powdery like steel cant absorb energy as well as RHA due to that same issue, It can resist deformity much better than RHA but cannot absorb energy as well, which makes it more brittle at the point of impact from an APFSDS, but it does deform apfsds quite a lot, which allows it to act similar to NERA without impacting the weight nearly as much
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