Im I thinking Prototype airframes (DA1, 2 and 3) this december.
Aim-9M + Aim-120B or C5s
Not the full handling kit
Not the full defensive kit
Tornado engines
No A2G (except maybe some dumb bombs)
Would only be slightly ahead of what we’ve got now and equal to what im guessing US and USSR will get this update or next
most likely Bs not Cs
Yeah… probably but still a chance if its fighting F-15Cs with Aim-120Cs
Hmmmm, conflicting opinions here, hahahah.
Interesting!
Basically; if there are chances for an early EF airframe to come this update, I will go for the F-4F line… but if it will take any longer (September, November or December), then I would go for MiG-29G to enjoy some Russian bias, and then re-focus on the F-4F line, hahahah.
There’s a promising suggestion of a sub-tree for Israel featuring Chile for Ground/Air and even naval vehicles made by @Chilean_Thunder, there’s even a Helicopter subtree suggestion made by him so I strongly advice to give it a look.
It can also be Singapore, though it doesn’t have that much depth for earlier ranks, so there are some alternatives to boost Israel for the forseeable future, now it’s up to Gaijin to decide if it’s a priority.
F-4F ICE is likely for this update. So thats something at least.
But yeah. Im seriously doubting this update. Possibly September. October is usually a “minor” update but december is most likely as it would be a BIG update. (though euro-canards would get 2 seconds of the teaser)
you’d really hope not
I see, good call!
It makes sense.
Gaijin will keep Germany with MiG-29G as a good dogfighter and F-4F ICE as an AMRAAM bus, and, by December, the crown jewel, EF, will come, once the rest of the nations have more capable aircraft too.
Therefore… I will go for MiG-29G for now!
Yeah, thats my guess.
Also I think a semi-reasonable chance of “late” Tornado IDSs this year or early next. If that is something you are intersted in. Would basically be Germanys only native CAS for quite a while
I mean, I hope too, but I do feel the overwhelming quantity of cope and cry the moment the Gripen was released means we will not see the EF released soon… There is little in active servce that is of comparison performance-wise to anything, say, America has.
Im guessing US and USSR will be on Typhoon equivalents like September and then the December update will be like 1 second of a Rafale taking off from a carrier. 1 second of a Typhoon taking off from a runway and then 2 minutes of an Su-24 bombing something and then shooting down the Typhoon and Rafale with ease
Honestly, I had totally forgotten we already have Gripens ingame, hahahah.
It’s actually crazy to think about… that’s one of the most agile and capable fighters even by 2024, and it’s here already…
It’s when I see that that I question whether it will take so long for EF to come or not.
but what? the F-15E, the F-16C, heck even the Hornet/Rhino, nothing that America has will be in any reasonable metric comparable to an EF in the merge. Lordy knows what Russia will do (no doubt a Thrust Vectoring Flanker derivative of some sort that no one conveniently has documents about)
If the cope of Gaijin’s main sources of income has anything to do with it, a pessimistic guess would be at “never”
F-15C MSIP II and F-18C for US
USSR something like Mig-31 or Su-30 I think
They;ll be BVR Trucks more than dogfighters I think. But heck. Thats what you get for not buying european :P
The MiG-31 is not a fighter, and would stand no chance against the Typhoon in anything but a true BVR conflict.
So just like the Tornado F3 vs F-16 and Mig-29?
Was about to say a MiG-31 is gonna have a fun time, even in BVR, with anti bomber and awacs aircraft missiles, aircraft that are traditionally known for flying relatively straight, slow, and are unmanouevrable. Whereas say a Typhoon is not.
The Tornado and Typhoon can pull harder than the MiG-31 and F-16/MiG-29 respectively.
It would be a terrible shame if… the USSR were to get stuck with something uncompetitive for a patch.