Short answer: no. Long answer: No cause that will make little to no sense at all, why would they add a nation that hates the U.K. And if they do add it as a sub-tech it’s gonna be a dumpster-fire.
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I mispoke indeed. way too tired rn. I did not even want to mention Swiss, but more Denmark, since Netherlands seems out of the equation lol. F/A-18 isn’t coming soon I think
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Isn’t that an F/A-18C tho?
We still need F/A-10A/B.
And despite how much I wine for it I’m not see the 80s Hoernt ever come to the game. there goes one of the few chances for a true C&P jet. always the wrong model.
I think this year but not this patch. Maybe Sep/Oct but I think probably Dec
Denmark is going to Sweden.
Gaijin has confirmed that Sweenden is an unofficial Nordic tree. Much like Italy is a minor axis one.
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I would have say F18 this year and F/A18 along side Rafale, EF2000 next year personally, but it’s really hard to gauge those things
Im thinking Typhoon and Rafale December. So… its possible
Its entirely dependent on what US/USSR get in September, just like last year
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I see. Then I guess Germany will be stuck with ICE. Maybe Gaijin might try to rush a Tranche 1 EF for the end of the year then
That sounds pretty interesting to see a Danish sub-tech for Sweden.
Very true… BR Compression is also a huge problem. Id be fine with the 15A staying 12.3 if the R-27ER shit wasn’t 12.7. It becomes a problem of the AIM-7 being worse than the R-27ER, but the R-27ER being worse than the AMRAAM. Just too big of capability jumps. If the worse sensors of the 27ER were modeled in the game it could fit against a datalink sparrow (Aim7P I think…)
Went off on a bit of a tangent.
I think 11.7-12.7 should be 9L + 7F/M vs R-27R/T + R-73
13.0-13.7 could be 9M + 7P vs a nerfed R-27ER (ET there too but the ET is fine the way it is) + R-73
14.0+ would be FOX3s
The issue with that is the Hornet flight performance ain’t that great and could come now or this update which i doubt
I was hoping they’d save Aim-9M for those that are gunna be high and need the advantage. Like the FA2/AV-8B+
Adding 9Ms to the Gr7 was one of the worst decisions they’ve made in a while though. Kinda screwed over the Gr7 and reduced the benefit of the Gr9A
Sadly, I think the ship has sailed (pun) for the F-18A to be added and be competitive at top BR. If they wanted that to happen they should have added it sometime in 2023. It’s much like the ADF, no TWS on the radar and only sparrows.
With FOX3s coming, We’re entering into a good window for that now with the F-18C, I just pray to god they actually add it this time. Could be good for a lot of nations, not just the USA. Germany in particular comes to mind, where it could be added as a stopgap for the EF2000
Let’s be honest, the fact that the ERs were introduced with the mig 29 is a complete joke in itself. The base R27 were already more than competitive against what everyone else had, and the mig 29 used to also be one of the best airframe at introduction. The fact that they took 2 whole years to consider finally adding fox 3s for other countries to compete still baffles me to this day. They completely ruined the gameplay loop imo as they forced a ground hogging gameplay for everything that can’t lob ERs. That is especially shown with the ARH test were far more people were flying high, not only to test their missiles, but also because as they had pretty similar performances, the fight were far more even.
I completely agree with your stance that the ER should stay in the FOX 3 league while regular R27 are more than sufficient in the AIM7 - R530 bracket
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Would have also meant that F3 with Skyslug STs could have been higher and still reasonably competitve because theyd be ever so slightly better than all other SARH.
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I think the war thunder community made a big mistake by getting so angry about the R-73 on the 9-13 when Apex Predators came out. I was one of those people that got mad, but I see now that keeping the R-73 away was what paved the way for the R-27ER to be added instead. R-73s are fairly easy to flare once you learn the technique. R-27ERs are just dominant if you don’t nap-of-the-earth fly. I hate how this game is just fly low simulator if you’re not a Russian.
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I mean the F/A-18A+ can use said fancy missle. (90s Hoernt)
The only one that won’t come is the 80s F/A-18A or F/A-18A (early), which is sad as it was the one I wanted.
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That’s how I feel. Why would we even add an F-18A+ with AMRAAMs when we could just add the F-18C? Same with the Eagles. A variant should be the Sparrow shooter and the C variant should be the AMRAAM shooter.
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Why would it be a disaster? And how?
The obvious answer seems to be the F-15J MSIP, which also like you said would give some C&P to US/Israel.
There is the option of a sub-tree addition like Thai/ASEAN option which could be probably an F-16 or Gripen, depending on nation.
Now of course there is the F-2 but I highly doubt they’d add that with ARHs and since the update is ARH focused, it’s moot.
I wouldn’t see why it would. It’s basically in general agreement that F-15C with AIM-120s would be a balanced counter to SU-27 and R-27ERs. Given the nature of air RB, it would give actually give some life to BVR combat as opposed to not bothering with it since R-27s just dominate.
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