They’re supplementing the fleet, not replacing it. Neither Bundestag nor BAAINBw decided yet on what to properly replace the KHT with. I’ve heard third party rumours that they’re somewhat interested in the new Italian design, but to repeat myself, third party (unconfirmed, hearsay, etc).
that’s mostly just aerospace, because german plane industry got killed after ww2 and the US is simply leading in most aerospace vehicles.
I dont think BeNeLux will be a sub-TT.
They have everything for a full scale independend TT.
Their prime area is naval - which is very big. Also their ground, helicopter and air TT’s are pretty big with much more to add then whats shown on the forums (the creators of the proposotion haven’t added every vehicle to the TT because it would otherwise be to big).
as proposed right now (from the excel spreadsheet i have acces to) - BeNeLux can provide around 500-600 vehicles (not taking the vehicles in account that haven’t been added to the proposition yet).
1 Like
Funny enough, I have a book from Dassault on how much Eurofighters Germany and UK was going to order, and I recall it saying 100 aircraft each, with 150 to be ordered by France. I’ll see if I can post that when I get home.
Helicopters too if that isn’t already included in aerospace.
RWR as well.
So a European radar that Germany had no hand in creating is somehow worse than using…an American radar that Germany had no hand in creating? Does that make sense?
Costs can be recouped by sales, but as UK pointed out, if APG-65 and Hornet engines are used, export orders could be blocked by the US which would lead to losses of sales. At that point, you’re losing out on money.
I apologize, I was wrong on this aspect. Germany indeed hasn’t bought the Apaches, still doesn’t negate the fact that they bailed on Tiger Mk3 with France and Spain, and considered or is considering? AH-64E.
I’m not fan of this excuse.
Some countries ingame have made more than some others, and still get less.
If USA got a lot of planes, it’s not because of that, it’s just because a lot of players play USA air.
1 Like
what the hell happened here
did we get a blog ?
Usual EAP+British vehicle discussion
oh im sorry, I think I started that by talking about X-31
But with Can Leo and Argentine flavour!
Absolutely nothing actually relevant to the topic. That much is for sure.
5 Likes
23 Likes
Just DWDS mainly
Devblog WithDrawal Symptoms are in full swing
4 Likes
Lol what? APG-65 wasn’t even meant to be used. The MSD-2K, was, and it was developed in cooperation by AEG & GEC-Marconi, less than 15% of it was to come from US.
Costs can be recouped by sales, but as UK pointed out, if APG-65 and Hornet engines are used, export orders could be blocked by the US which would lead to losses of sales. At that point, you’re losing out on money.
Yes, and it’s a legitimate concern, I never disagreed with that have I?
Case in point. Hindsight is 20/24. We now know that Germany’s idea was worse than UK’s, but we also have the information & knowledge that the German leadership of 1990s didn’t. For them choosing MSD-2K & F-18s engines was a no brainer - lesser cost, proven, smaller risk.
I apologize, I was wrong on this aspect. Germany indeed hasn’t bought the Apaches, still doesn’t negate the fact that they bailed on Tiger Mk3 with France and Spain, and considered or is considering? AH-64E.
Correct. They bailed on it due to being dissatisfied with the construction, citing that the Mk.3 variant would not be able to address the maintenence & availability issues that plague the Tiger family as a whole.
Putting myself in their shoes, I can see how that decision makes sense - the KHT as is, cannot even properly fulfill its role (because it no longer really exist), the carry weight isn’t too great in comparison to some other platforms.
Do I ultimately agree with their decision? No. I personally wanted Germany to go with the Mk.3, but I also understand why they did what they did.
1 Like
The worst thing is we are still ages from the next dev blog
3 Likes
Because the Commonwealth is made up of 56 nations.
Far too many nations for a TT.
1 Like
Because it’s one of the vehicle most logical to have come to France than the Ito.
France worked on this vehicle, it was at least on the French ground, not like the Ito wich was just a lazy copy pasta.
Yeah… the first half year is the longest.