Could be cool to have the CV90 FRES as a PUMA equivalent and then the Javelin armed AJAX as a top tier IFV
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I’m reckoning the Ajax is gunna be 10.7. just to screw with Britain.
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a good comparison are the weights from what i found ajax is 40t and the puma is 43t.
The turret system of the Puma should be lighter as well + Puma gets the ERA
with or without javelins and working he vt?
Probably without
The RWS on the Ajax has been tested with Javelin on an old CVRT hull. At least I think its a CVRT
OKAY SO. The Ajax comes with the option of mounting the Thales RS4 Protector (a licenced built model of the Kongsberg Protector RS4) which has been tested with Javelins in the 2000’s on a spartan APC. This was never brought forwards in british service (although the USMC uses the RS4 with Javelins). However the bigger nail in the coffin for Javelin armed Ajax is the language used by the british army and current docrine for ATGM use in AFVs, which is dismount teams. Hell, only 10 warriors where ever fielded with the field mod for sticking a milan launcher on the roof.
Qoute from the Army about Javelins
The ARES variant is the common base for all the AJAX variants and will be used to deliver and support specialist troops across the battlefield, including Anti -Tank Javelin Teams, Snipers and Support Troops.
I’d also like to add this is in reference to the Ares APC variant of the Ajax, so there’s even more of a disconnect between Ajax and Javelins.
Without Javelins (see my last comment) & I’ve found out in the last hour that it’s not HE-VT, its like AHEAD, so proably not lmao
doctrine etc doesnt matter, if it was done once or tested its fair game, i mean look at the frankenstein gepard1a2 in the game
@Morvran i guess propably 10.0 maybe 10.3 if gajins wanna be realy annoying
Of course, but they each have their stated reasons for inclusion. So I’m not sure why they’re mentioned as if to show some oppositional quality to the reasoning for H-39.
*battleships.
It 's not nearly at the capability to fight the later/last battleships, while the Argentine carriers are well beyond those. For that gap, the H-39 fits.
Yet we can already be sure they will feature here, as a variety of components to do so - including some british carriers already - have been introduced.
We have seen that additions for GB are secure, not just for this area but into the jet age beyond what any battleship could handle. It 's DE which has far fewer options, which is why they are allowed certain liberties to remain relevant in the near term - the near term ends. There 's nothing indicative of this happening to GB, so their unbuilt ships don’t have a similar justification that would point towards their development. Their point of relevance in GB 's context fades away quickly, while they’re nearly the end of the line for DE( and are when it comes to domestic options ).
Usally Gaijin wants it trialed on the vehicle itself (see PGM-2000 on the GR1 vs IDS), which does kinda kill this avenue.
There’s a KE-AB (given all the CTA40 ammunition is saboted, it could even be rebranded AHEAD rounds) and a HE-TF. weeeeeeee
If you want a look here’s the CTAi page on offerred ammunition Ammunition - CTA International
What ships? Since we all know that BB can´t replace CV and vice versa. You acknowledged that:
Of course they won’t, they are completely different methods of combat. That does not make them incompatible.
You can´t seriously say that giving UK just CVs would be somehow fair. Why shouldn´t UK get equivalent unfinished BB since they has nothing completed to match Iowa, Yamato, H-39 or Sojuz.
Even if they get Lion they will struggle quite a bit.
I don´t understand how can you say that CVs can plug a BB hole.
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you see gaijin stated that ships that were laid down but were never finished are fair game to be added so it doesnt matter if you think they shouldn’t the Lion still has multiple reasons to be added even if we do get aircraft carrier.
Also I doubt the Argentina carrier Veinticinco de Mayo would go to germany as it has nothing to do with geramny and was infact the british carrier Venerable sold to the dutch that was then sold to the Argentines.
oh also forgot about their other carrier ARA Independencia which guess what was also a Colossus-class carrier named HMS Warrior
IDS never had PGM 2000, thats why i said if there was a ajax tested with javelin
Ive just come to the conclusion that they dont want britain to have a chance
I’m guessing 10.7, because we don’t have a 10.7 line up. 10 or 10.3 would be fine
Aren´t top tier fillers even more important then midtier ones (since you can skip some unfavourable BRs). And what will BBs be in the future era of DDGs?
i mean, show me pumas 10.0 line up or italies 10.7 one when all their tanks are 10.3
Ah, should clarifiy, no not to public knoweledge, however, the RWS the Ajax mounts has been tested with a javelin, but on a different chassis (an FV103 Spartan) which is where the argument for it comes from. Honestly we’ll just have to see what gaijin and the BA does.
i saw manned turret and my hopes for britain making a good ifv went to the ground manned turrets are not the best as of rn tbh