What are you going to do when you are out of missiles?
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The F-4 is a good but not great platform.
F-4F ICE adds amazing missiles.
Range doesn’t matter for AARHs that much, cause you can lock them much closer without ever getting locked by an AIM-7/R-27/Super 530 carrier.
AARHs and SARHs can never be equivalents.
All it takes to defeat a SARH is to not get locked by the host radar.
AARHs require defeating two sets of radars.
The only reason 200km AARHs exist today is cause of stealth jets. 200km range to break the stealth characteristics at closer ranges.
RTB. Just as people do now.
Compared to the MiG-29 (any MiG-29) the Phantom has an at best mediocre platform. Once again, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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To repeat myself: I’ve flown all the aircraft I’m speaking on.
I understand that you feel I’m insulting Mig-29SMT, but I am not.
Mig-29 is one of my favorite jets too, but I ain’t gonna insult people just cause they tell me straight up facts about their performance.
You have done this many, many times in the past, and you are doing it once again. Do not, I repeat, do not change what you said to suit the argument.
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Again Alvis talking nonsense
Something never changes
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How are they asymmetrical equivalents? The R-27ER dominates over the AIM-120A/B in every single way aside from the active homing in the terminal phase.
I am not asking for the 120C unless Russia and China get their R-77-1s and PL-12s but I am just curious how you came to that conclusion.
Because the AIM-120A/B is fire and forget, allowing you to disengage, whereas R-27ERs need to be babysat. Also, the R-77 is equivalent to early AIM-120Cs, not the R-77-1.
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I think the concern is that the fire and forget part has the potential to be the most meta shifting factor in radar missles gameplay. The ability to completely disengage after launch is huge, and instantly give me an advantage over my opponent if they are using Fox-1’s.
Let’s say we’re both at 15 km and I frie an AIM-120 and he launches and ER. Normally he would absolutely win, but if I go 180, and he still tries to commit to me so he can guide in his radar, he is doomed, if he waits to late to go defensive, he is doomed, and I can do this In TWS too so they won’t know until the missle is pitbull. Even if my missle only has Aim-7M levels of flight performance, that’s more than enough once coupled with an active seeker
But it’s range and overall kinetic performance is inferior to a very noticeable degree. The active radar homing is all well and good but you’ll be getting an 27-ER well before you even get a chance to launch.
AIM-120C2s, R-77-1s and PL-12 are all comparable enough in terms of seeker, range and kinetic performance.
If Gaijin was going to add the AIM-120A model, I would argue that the R-77 isn’t required.
- And the AIM-120 is fire and forget, and 2. no, the R-77 is equivalent to early AIM-120Cs, not the R-77-1.
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If you play dumb and don’t fly to put yourself in a good position yes. You still shouldn’t be playing high altitude BVR games with flankers, but if you stay low and then pop up when safe to launch 120’s at people, even people looking at you, you can really troll the enemy, especially if they themselves aren’t close to the ground
And unlike a Fox 1, if your good at switching targets, you can almost get them off like a Fox 2
If only gaijin manages to model them properly
R-77-1 had a new seeker and some aero improvements, nothing game breaking but enough of an improvement to be fair if facing C2 and PL-12 armed planes.
Yeah that’s all well and good but Fox 3s will still be vulnerable to ground clutter/multi-path and Fox 3s will again, like any other missile, sacrifice a lot of it’s range thanks to the low altitudes War Thunder usually sees combat at.
Pending Gaijin spaghetti code and which missiles they decide to drop, R-27ERs will still be a very strong choice.
And the R-77 is an early AIM-120C equivalent, not the R-77-1.
Howcome the strela-10M2 and the Japanese type-93 are at the same br?
The type-93 is way worse in every aspect besides driving speed, which isnt useful against killing planes.
@Smin1080p
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It’s the same as confused emoji back then. If you mention it you will receive one.
Holy shit bro just invented a Reddit 2. Time to get downvoted into oblivion for having a different opinion eyy
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Do we have any news on the skin pack? Seems like it’s a bit late.
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