Unfortunately, those are the options that would require Gaijin to put in the least amount of effort, and we all know how Gaijin gravitates toward options like that.
I hope for 1 update between early ARMAAM carriers and late ones. At which point, something like the F2 could be really good. But after the amount of US moaning about the F-15A this update. I think that is less likely now.
Combine with the fact that Gripen C for Sweden might have been delayed so it can come with AMRAAM, then F-15C with AMRAAM is also possible unforutantely.
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Yep, again, they had 0 issue with 2 nations being DOA at top tier for an entire year because "minor nations must suffer "
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Britain has definitely suffered the most in regard to top tier ARB, however I will never get over Germany getting the MiG-21bis-SAU and MiG-23MLA over half a year after Russia got the 21bis and 23MLD, especially since the 21bis-SAU was released in the same update as the 23MLD.
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With Gaijin’s track record, I stand with Morvran on this one.
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It’s hard to say given that usually Gaijin won’t tell us something as big as Fox 3s being in schedule for the next update or two.
Given how the EJ Kai doesn’t get AAM-3s at all. I think they’re definitely in favor of adding more and more new planes that can carry the new goodies.
On the plus side, at least for UK, they got one of the best planes in the game and AFAIK it’ll be Fox 3 capable.
Yep, but they did come.
Phantom FGR2 carried Britain top tier for 3.5 years.
Harrier Gr7 helped, but was nerfed rather quickly
Tornado could have come as early as end of 2021 (with no guided weapons) and upgraded through 2022 (like the Jaguar GR1A was) instead it came with 12.0 air superiority fighters
Tornado F3 could have and should have come with Stage 2G radar from the start and could have come anytime between the Mig-23MLD end of 2021 to the F-14A end of 2022. came hafl way through 2023
Heck, they werent even going to give the Tornado F3 the Stage 2G radar, they were going to give it an earlier radar so they could keep the F3 and ADV identical. Even though the Italians had the F-16. Thankfully evidence for Italy having the Stage 2G meant Britain didnt get screwed and we had a semi-decent aircraft
Just… over the cause of the past few years. Especially 2023. Gaijin has not filled me with much confidence, I dont think im alone in that.
Recent posts, like those with the Challenger 2 or MANPADs have not helped either.
It would be good for them to show some actual genuine care for the other 8 nations in this game. Typhoon sooner rather than later, as part of a Euro Delta Update with the Gripen E and Rafale. Would do just that, and It would be nice, for once, just once. If it came first, instead of last
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The Gripen E is substantially better than the early Typhoons.
Think in the dev stream they said something like first half of 2024. If that tracks, March or June would be the best guess.
Not a lot they can really add without them either
Yeah, Gripen C was nice. Will be better if/when they finish it. But I just have no emotional connection with it. Which is a shame. I’ll fly it, especially when finished and noit quite so buggy (radar is a mess) but im looking forward to the new SB brackets and for the first time in 10 months actually be able to play the Tornado F3 without a massive uptier
It could get AMRAAM, its 50/50
I could see Sea Harrier FA2/Tornado F3 AOP being AMRAAM Carriers until Typhoon (so long as Typhoon wasnt stupidly late) and leaving the Gripen C AMRAAM-less to keep a lower BR. with no other 12/12.3s that might be good. At teh same tiem Sea Harreir FA2 might only be 12.3 and can replace it.
Its tricky. Especially as SAAF never equipped Gripen C with BVR as well… So. There is that as well
late Gripen C then. But still. all 3 principle Euro Delta, as the centre of piece of a major update. Would be good. Gripen kinda got shafted this update with barely a second in the trailer. Gripen C didnt even make it to the dev server.
Would be good, for them to get centre show, just once
Yea. To me this is a good thing as I want them to accelerate and add the modern stuff now and worry about fixing them later (like pretty much every new mechanic introduced). But again, I’m biased and the reason I want that is so I can get the stuff I look forward to, which in this case is the F-2.
I don’t care for the AESA, I don’t want to be OP or anything. I just want a F-16AJ flight performance (or better, idk how the F-2 will perform), TWS mainly for ground RB, AAM-3s, drogue chute. I feel like that’s not too much to ask…
Every time I fly the AJ I’m just reminded of what could of have been, Soon TM.
I’d say if it’s capable, they’ll probably add it to the C. I don’t know if older aircraft will get Fox 3s except maybe the F-16C? Making us grind a new plane for that feature seems like the usual case.
Yeah, Im the same. I would take a Typhoon with 1 working engine, held together with duct tape and only the pilot pistol as an A2A weapon if it meant actually getting in game next update.
If they had added the Sea Harrier Fa2 at the same time as the Gripen C. I would have researched and Spaded the Sea Harrier FA2 first. Probably before even buying the Gripen C. Without any hesitation. I know I will be playing the FA2 a lot when it gets added.
In the F-16Cs case, US has the F-14B, F-15A and many other F-16s. So it moving up, wont be felt at all.
In Britain case. We have the Tornado F3 at 11.3, Harrier Gr7 at 11.7, No 12s and only the Gripen C at 12.3
They might leave it at 12.3 instead of adding AMRAAM. I think its entirely and completely dependent on what else Britain gets. Where they are located and how long till Typhoon. If Gripen C is our top tier dogfighter for a while and FA2 gets neutered somehow, then I could see them doing what htey did to the FGR2 and upgrading it to keep it going.
We’ll see. Like I said, 50/50
And yeah the SAAF thing is seconday. They also never purchased Aim-9 or Skyflash. I dont even think Gripen C could fire SARH
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Ja37D currently sits at BR 11.3. When it gets early AMRAAMS, what BR might we expect? 11.7 like an F-14A? Or higher?
We haven’t even had fake leaks yet, let alone Mr.China guy say anything yet. It’s also possible that Gajjin may of plugged the leak if they were able to find out who it was, but time will tell
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12.3, I’m guessing, though it shouldn’t be any higher than 12.0.
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Hey, I posted a totally real leak list. I’m offended.
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Yeah it’d be interesting to see how 120’s compare to like AIM7’s or AIM54’s.
You got any idea about their short/mid range performance? Whichever it is, their fire and forget capabilities will give it an edge over the Sparrows.
Also will be interesting to see how many the 37D can carry.
Personally hoping the early AMRAAMS underperform so the 37D will stay below 12.0 so the new sim bracket doesn’t put it to F-16’s and Su-27’s only.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/18mse6r/war_thunder_calendar_of_sales_2024
Check this out.
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That person posted their leaks no earlier than approximately 3 weeks (20 days) before the patches dropped. We’re still looking at another 7 or so weeks before the patch is predicted to drop (during week 10).
So we could expect leaks from our Chinese comrade, no sooner than week 7 of this year.
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AIM-120A/Bs are effectively ARH AIM-7Ms.
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