Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Skyflash was maybe possible, or at least maybe briefly used in testing, but its typical loadout would be 4-6 IR SRAAM (Aim-9L/Aim-9Li, Aim-9M or ASRAAM/IRIS-T) and 4-6 BVR MRAAM (Aim-120B or Aim-120C5 or Meteor)

I personally thinking Gaijin is operating as if it could only equip the Gen 5 IR missiles and later AMRAAM for some reason, only way it really makes sense to me.

But of key note, the Typhoon doesnt have AESA, It uses the CAPTOR-M a Mechanical radar for quite a while

That is curious since an IR only EFT could be nice. What other features does it have that make it Gen 4.5?

Usually I’d think it’s electronics and such that push aircraft from Gen 4 to Gen 4.5, with Gen 5s being mostly stealth tech.

Then again, are generations defined by capability or time period of introduction?

DA versions have the engines from the tornado
What makes them 4.5 comes with the production ones

Yeah, thats thing, im genuinely not sure. At least certainly not for the DA2, which would have the Tornado engines and not the full EF2000. Which whilst still pushed it up to Mach 2. Did curve its acceleration a bit.

Yeah, there is enough missing bits and pieces that it would probably be a step up from current aircraft, but only maybe 0.3 BRs. Especially if we saw “heavy” AAM carriers to more nations (10+ AAMs)

This is why I am perpetually confused and would love a detailed breakdown from Gaijin as to why its so OP in their eyes. Everything I know of is that after ARH and aircraft like the Sea Harrier FA2, its the next, logical addition

I missed something?!! Is there a reliable list?

Getting a clear answer from Gaijin that doesn’t contain any nonsense or contradictions would be nice.

Yeah, if they had a good reason that they would care to share, then I would accept it, but I just dont trust that the reason isn’t totally arbituary and that we will be in aircraft that surpass the DA2s performance for other nations relatively soon

Quick google makes it seem like Gripen is a Gen 4.5 but did not get a specific variant so I presume it’s talking about later variants like the Gripen E.

But yea, the general consensus seems to be better electronics/radar and maybe some stealth tech mixed in for Gen 4.5.

In terms of WT, looking at something like the F-2 early, outside of modeling AESA in general, nothing about it seems out of the realm of what we have. Heck if it’s going to at best match the Gripen’s flight performance, it seems like there isn’t going to be any power creep.

Gripen E is probably a reasonable match for Typhoon F2s (first full production models)

This is why comparing them is so hard. “Typhoon” could be a lot of aircraft including the latest variant

The early Gripens are 4.5th gen, however only very early so, like how the F-14A isn’t very good by fourth gen standards, but is still a fourth gen fighter.

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Wikipedia can be changed artificially and cannot be used as a basis. A few years ago, a China girl wrote hundreds of years of Russian history on Wikipedia, and it took a long time for someone to discover it.

i think you are wrong the march update would be air focused, mark my words!

Is there any information about navy in the next major update?

We know nothing for sure other than that the JAS39C is coming for Sweden and that ARH missiles may come.

If it is really ZBD04 not ZBD04A, then it is not so good because of its thin armor, but it is a good start to add more Chinese IFV to the game

I’m aware of that. I use wikipedia to find sources quoted and then try to work back from there.

Still a good start, but yeah I would hope the add ZBD-04A first and skip the regular all together. They could also make the A an upgrade package.

Also the list isn’t really specific about other details so it’s possible that they only knew so much

Just having another Chinese IFV in general would be amazing. I would love to grind out the Chinese ground tree, however the lackluster top tier makes me very hesitant.

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…whyd the leaker be leaking something 6 months if not more into the future