Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

[Rileyy3437]

Might suggest there will be more leaning of Gaijin towards AShM’s in the future. Not really much point in a tree that can’t get past cruiser level’s.

[Rileyy3437]

@Morvran

early Typhoons would also lack most forms of CAS.

I think they had dumb bombs and I’ve seen it alleged that BAe conducted weapons drops of other ordinance but it was removed from the first batch due to politics, but with no source.

Rafale’s first variant was exclusively A2A people often like to think the Eurofighter wasn’t developed for multirole and Rafale was but its service introduction was much like the Rafale’s being rushed and therefore losing certain capabilities.

[Morvran]

Only thing i’ve seen is BL755 CBUs. (which makes sense when you consider that we had Tornado Gr4, Harrier Gr7/Gr9 and Jaguar Gr3 all in service for ground attack) Though in the absence of CBUs in game I could see just 540s or 1000s dumb bombs instead.

Based upon the book “Typhoon by Mike Sutton” the author was one of the people who literally wrote the book for the Typhoon and he provided his experience from flying the Jaguar. So it was definetly thought about from the onset. It just didnt enter service with all those in place. They were added over time and as pilots were trained and transitioned over from their respective aircraft (like retiring the Jaguars in 2007) to the Typhoon and it took on more and more of the multirole element. But first and foremost it was need to supplement and replace the Sea Harrier FA2 and Tornado F3

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Legwolf

Also any news about giving South African vehicles their own standard Green camouflague rather continuing to make them the only nation in the game who are locked to sticking out like a sore thumb? @Smin1080p

Please feel free to make a suggestion for any camo proposals.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Chris4win

@Smin1080p
Did gaijin make progress with AHEAD (the puma and kf41 proxy ammunition)? Germany has more vehicles with the same technology like a skyranger on a boxer and since the addition of the puma there was no answer if it will ever get fixed.

Generally if there was an update to a bug report, the report itself would be updated on the Community Bug site. As mentioned previously however, the developers and most staff have only mostly returned this week after NY holidays.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@el_Argentino

@Smin1080p Does this mean that we would not see more Argentine vehicles in the German TT? The German ground and air tree already has 5 lines.

Is it possible to clarify this a little? Because seen this way, with this limitation, it will not be possible to add between 30 and 40 vehicles in each major update, which is when they obtain the most sales.

Whilst we have no specific matters to announce at the time, a whole line is not required to add a nations vehicle to a given tree. For example, most recently the SAAF Gripen.

[dotSHINI]

that isnt realy an “open” bug report anymore, gajin did give “ahead” an update but its still useless and cant even hit hovering helicopters. AHEAD is need of a complete rework, i think that ones only in your internal system and not on the community bug site anymore

Edit: guess there still is an open report, still seriously needs an upgrade its missing its main anti air ammo is so unfair when the 2S38 is running around as spaa Community Bug Reporting System

[dotSHINI]

@Smin1080p

For example, most recently the SAAF Gripen.

Gives me hope for a Switz F/A 18

[Rileyy3437]

@PestoMystic

Would the earliest EF and Rafales have maneuverability similar to the Gripen? More, less?

The only comparisons which actually compared the maneuverability of the 3 were of production variants. The EF and Rafale would still both have better T/W ratio’s and IIRC the EF rates the best out of them all but the worse engines might limit its sustained turn rate.

Its pretty hard to say the best comparisons can only really be made with production variants which get tested by customers (eg Swiss and Indian trials).

@PestoMystic

And what was the payload designed for them on introduction?

EF DA.2 would have 4-6 AMRAAM and 4 SRAAM either AIM-9L/i or ASRAAM. Rafale would have 4 MICA EM and 4 Magic II.

You may find the official evaluations on the Swiss trials informative. They can be found easily on google.

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Legwolf

This is such a reach, but @Smin1080p @gromvoiny are there any plans to return Historical Decals, or open up previous historical decals to be purchased with GE? There’s ALOT of Historical decals, especially for minor nations but are hidden and unobtainable.

They’d make a massive impact on the amount of customisation options for the game, with no additional work. Any chance we’d see the previous ones be purchasable or unlockable, or a return of historic decals?

We don’t currently have any news on the return of the previous historical decal events, however we are aware of some interest surrounding decals and are always looking at new ways we can deploy historical and event decals.

[Mytho-GR1]

:( yet again

@Mytho61734

and now that i was blanked i will now assume im correct on every thing

[Legwolf]

Awesome, thanks very much man. Hope you had a good christmas and new years, too!

[Chris4win]

@x_Shini

that isnt realy an “open” bug report anymore, gajin did give “ahead” an update but its still useless and cant even hit hovering helicopters. AHEAD is need of a complete rework, i think that ones only in your internal system and not on the community bug site anymore

It really does need a rework with auto set of the range. With the kf41 and the future boxers (now with the vilkas) they can’t really ignore it anymore

[dotSHINI]

auto set range wont be enough, projectiles are to few and they dissapear after traveling 10m when they should travel over 100m… problem is the range finder programms to explode at 11m the result is the shrapnel puffing out of existence right before standing targets

[Smin1080p_WT]

@Legwolf

Awesome, thanks very much man. Hope you had a good christmas and new years, too!

And you o7

[Chris4win]

I would be satisfied if it would work at least a little bit. Problem with big zones is that the fragments would be very dependend on the radius probably similar to Spherical waves with Intensity=1/r²

[Legwolf]

I’ve opened a suggestion, which is pending approval for the historical decal event return, would it be yourself who green lights this or does it go into a queue to be examined?

[PestoMystic]

@Mytho61734

we have don’t use IRIS-T on the British ones

Figured, but the German and Italian earliest EF’s would have IRIS-T, right?

@Rileyy3437

The only comparisons which actually compared the maneuverability of the 3 were of production variants. The EF and Rafale would still both have better T/W ratio’s and IIRC the EF rates the best out of them all but the worse engines might limit its sustained turn rate.

So I’m thinking this means Su-30SM with the canards and TVC, if we’re going to keep things close with the Fox-3’s and everything else. Probably guessing the next big Chinese jet is going to be the J-10C then.

@Smin1080p

We don’t currently have any news on the return of the previous historical decal events, however we are aware of some interest surrounding decals and are always looking at new ways we can deploy historical and event decals.

I really would love to get my hands on the white VDV vehicle decal, I only have the nice emblem version from last year. I’d pay money for it.

[Mytho-GR1]

@PestoMystic

but the German and Italian earliest EF’s would have IRIS-T, right?

Rileyy3437:

AIM 9L(i) then IRIS-T yes

@PestoMystic

So I’m thinking this means Su-30SM with the canards and TVC

Yeah that would be the Russian equivalent to the EFT

[Legwolf]

Nah Su-30SM would be far heavier and less manueverable. I’m not sure Russia/USSR developed a lightweight multirole like the west did. Su-30SM would be more like an F/A-18C

Eurofighter fits a very weird niche that only China seemed to have replicated with J-10