Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

I’d argue that Spain, Switzerland, India and Iran could also work independently, though Spain would likely require a sub-tree at a similar point to Sweden.
India and Iran would have to be in Israeli style rank IV+.
I’d also argue that Canada could work on it’s own, though I’d rather see them in a combined tree with Australia and New Zealand, as well as I think South Africa could work as an independent nation, though they are now stuck in Britain.

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i think it’s a shame so few people are willing to do a tiny bit of research and realise how many nations actually have a decent argument for getting significant representation in the game

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It’s even more sad to think that people somehow think the game will survive without new nations.

In terms of ground we are at modern day just look at the Challenger 3.
Air have go some wiggle room but with they confirming AMRAAM’s this or next update.
Air will almost be at a end with some nations.

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i mean each nation comes with its own top tier anyway

With how much content there is to the game I believe it could survive without any new updates even, at least for a few years.
Wouldn’t be the healthiest state of being for the company and for veterans though, the game would be greatly reliant on new waves of players in lower tiers and higher tiers would likely die out over time.

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@Smin1080p Why isn’t m735 fixed yet?

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Now a guy would come and say it still pens more armor than some other rounds at 60° angle

I’m expecting such a retard, as always

As if that shell pre artificial nerf wasn’t dogshit enough

India can be a part of south asia TT and Iran can be a part of arab TT. Otherwise both of these nations need some sub trees to be viable.

Deffentley possible.

Well, it could be. But it would also be another Isreail-style tree and I know there are still more than a few trees that could start at reserve tier.

I agree.

I’ve mentioned my dislike for that type of tree. I’d welcome the nations but I rather them be some time off.

Indeed well a Canadian tree that could stand on its own be welcomed. I’d rather them take the route where they can give it an ANZAC Sub tree. (Pseudo Commonwealth tree. with how Gaijin does tech-tree nowadays.)

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Definitely. Far too often I’m met with the “Top tier or MBTs/mediums are everything” or the “C&P China 2.0” argument.

Almost every nation that could come at this point strong point is WW2 or is Everything but MBTs.

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I very much dislike these huge conglomerations in order to make a functioning tree, especially when they are as controversial as adding Iran in an Arab tree…

Turkey could also be the potential discussed subtree for Israel. Given that they do have a significant cooperation between each other in terms of military technology. Currently there are Turkish vehicles that are both American(event) and Italian(2 different premiums), but this only correspond to the nations that developed these techs. However, Turkey being any subtree is more than likely to cause outrage for Turkish players of the game.
On the other hand, we were to see a light tank branch for Israel, but given how “light” these light tanks are(an IFV that weighs 70 tons), they are likely to be absorbed into the tank destroyer branch, leaving the potential for a subtree open.

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I believe that copypastes in low tier China only made the tree boring to play, however, it does make one of the most potent 5.0 and 5.7 lineups. And given there are decent premiums to grind to the BR where China has unique and decent original designs, I felt the discussion of “copypastes” should be limited to where the nation has original designs but were chosen to not be introduced. One example is perhaps Italian helicopters.

This is why some nations should be a part of existing TT instead of a new standalone one.

The problem is then sometimes they offer limited significance. Finland was successful, the critiques of copypaste were soon covered by angry German mains, and the strength of the subtree made Sweden more popular. Hungary was a failure, because it introduces vehicle that offers little to the problem Italy faces and then copypastes become a problem, because there were more Italian domestic designs to come.
And politics. War thunder is a game about real-life vehicles and politics is almost garunteed to spark from the player base whenever a new nation is introduced.

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I agree with that statement, but not for the aforementioned countries.
Countries such as Greece or Norway I find are well served in this manner.

Would love to see a rework of the China QN506 top attack missiles. They really do need to be investigated, shooting down helicopters is more consistent than taking out MBT’s with the top attack missile.

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Yugoslavia has always been one country. Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia, Slovenia, and Montenegro are not Yugoslavia, they are its successor nations.

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There is a massive and well researched post making the case for Iran getting it’s own tree, or at least tech tree. I hope the dev-team considers Iran as they have a lot of cool weapons and vehicles.