I am also using the heaviest possible config and even the maximum allowed weight of 69t for 2A7V.
Do you want me to use the highest possible weight of a Leopard 2A7V and compare it with the empty weight of a Challenger 2 because you cant accept that you were wrong about 2A7V being heavier?
you are using the lightest 2a7v config which is 64.1T being 0.1T heavier than the challengers lightest config
He sued gaijin and got 3 million btw
okay so we are just ignoring this part outright, sure.
That is also wrong, it’s the combat weight without mineprotection (lightest 2a7v config would be the empty weight, which is even lower) and even then its not 64.1t but 63.9t
“63,9T Combat Weight”
I already sent this here but you unsurprisingly ignored it.
Polish tech tree 🤤
i was talking about ingame i never ignored anything and this also doesnt change the fact you were wrong in calling the challenger 2 obese when it weighs basically the same as a 2a7 and even less than it in game
i mean comparing the most modern leopard to the most modern challenger shows the 2A7V is 1.6 tons heavier, thats without the mine protection mod so I dont really get the argument going on here
me neither tbh
Hella strawman because the ingame Challenger 3TD is based on the 2019 version with base challenger 2 armour.
And even then, it should be 64t because the report that got it to 62.5t was made before the Challenger 2’s weight was corrected:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TmfWqB5WGPMi
The actual Challenger 3 weighs 66t
I hope when the F-15EX/Su-35 trailer drops there’s a slow-mo transition scene going from F-15A → F-15C MSIP II → F-15C GE → F-15EX and Su-27S → Su-27SM → Su-35S, giving a bit of Air Superiority vibes, coming full circle with the “final” form of both aircraft.
But that’s just my artistic cope.
dayumm, i’d play the challangers IF they weren’t so fat and ugly and slow and useless, but that turret looks pretty nice tbh. the hull is just so fat ugly and weak tho
Can’t wait for the F-15EX to be added in November just for 5th gens to be added in December and completely overshadow it. :/
???
Who knows, it could come in September :P. Besides, once the initial hype around 5th gen goes down a bit (unless Escalation is a full-time thing by then, where stealth would actually be useful), then everyone runs back to missile bus meta. In which case:
F-15EX:
(Speaking of what could come, has a vehicle teased in a decal ever not come? F-16XL where are you)
i think F-15E RMP is more likely to come before F-15EX
It’s honestly a toss up at this point.
The RMP would still be 14.3 material as it more than likely will only come with 8x AAMs total, EPAWSS (ie. +120x CMs), no BOL (Es don’t get them), 120Ds, and the usual AESA radar.
Yes, it will still have PW-229s, but I don’t think all of that is enough to warrant 14.7.
If Gaijin wants to add a 14.7 for the US at all, the EX is the only option.
The only other option.
F-15C GE is hilariously under BR’d.
would it retain the 2 sets 60 small and 30 large supplemental countermeasures?
