if we mentioned the TES then obviously its heaavier but i never mentioned the TES
no im not. it depends on what challenger we use but its not fair using the heaviest challengers and then not the heaviest leopard
(gets a Idea)
:3
The standard chally 2e got 67.4t
Or you realy compare a challenger 1 to the 2a7v lol
the challenger 2E doesnt weigh 67.4T???
is there a bug were no hits been shown in hit analysis?
i had 2-3 shots with my AS-90 on a T-54 and i can see non
If you want to make a comparison, here are two examples: Challenger 2e and Leopard 2a6ex Demo 2. They weigh the same.
66.5t is literally the combat-weight in the heaviest configuration the Bundeswehr operates the 2A7V in.
The maximum weight is <69t according to KNDS… (6t lower than the combat-ready weight of a challenger 2)
You are comparing a canceled challenger version that never went into service to the 2a7V now lol
Your own statement was the challenger 2 weights less.
Thats moving the goal post buddy
the combat weight of the challenger 2 is 64T not 75T
your the one who brought up the 2E and it isnt a cancelled challenger version its an export version
and yes it does. the base challenger 2 weighs less than the 2A7V if we start talking about uparmoured versions then yeah the challengers obviously heavier
67.4T you getting it wrong again
“with add on armour modules”
where does it say that?
We are comparing a 2A7V in its maximum weight configuration (that is used by the BW) featuring addon-equipment with it.
If we didnt, then 2A7V would still be lighter as it’s 63.9t w/o the underbelly mine-protection.
(and again the maximum vehicle weight of a 2A7 is literally 6t lower than the COMBAT WEIGHT of a Challenger 2 with addon-equipment (combat-weight != maximum weight))
So idk why we are having this argument here in the first place.
Challenger 2 is heavier than a 2A7V in comparable configurations. Period.
huh i never did, what you talking about lol.
you brought it up
ah yeah, tell me the nation that bought it lol, it has been stoped since nobody got it as far as i am aware
please provide sources, and again 2E is not a base challenger 2
quick and lazy way
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again im not talking about the 2E