Option 2: M1A2 SEPv3’s hull armor DOES get upgraded hull armor… except it will only be 470mm KE because they will base the value off a lighter, early experimental upgrade prototype from the Early 2000s, as if the U.S wouldn’t have developed a more advanced composition for commissioning 15 years later.
Giving any Abrams to any other country other than the US is screwing it over since there is no need for further reducing the little uniqueness the US tree has
I wanted to write that at first, but given how petty and utterly wrong the devs were on the M1 Abrams devblog literally lying about the weight increase for the suspension and less so denying spall liners despite it having integrated kevlar liners to reduce spall in the composite armored parts, I fully believe they will deny it having any upgrade.
i hope the autoloader for the bardelas 60mm hvms is gonna be modeled in the next major update
when the pzh2000 was added, i think it got the autoloader in the next major, not the one it was added in, so there is still hope
Ah, true. I forgot about the “we don’t believe any serial production variant ever got any hull armor upgrades” because “the front wheels would probably not be able to withstand the weight increase” BS from their Abrams armor post.
So, basically, SEPv3 will be a 68 ton SEP.
Maybe, at most, they add +100mm KE to the cheeks at best given the undeniable visual geometry change, at most. But the turret sides will remain unchanged, just like SEP and SEPv2’s.
BEST case scenario, maybe it gets Trophy, which won’t be relevant for tank-on-tank combat anyway either.
2020s MBT with the same exact hull as the first, 1979 iteration of the vehicle. Lmaooooooooooooo.
I mean that’s just how every tree is man. Most MBTs are exported at some point and it will only be a matter of time before another tree gets one. At least US ones will be unique in having M829A3 and A4 since those have never been exported (to my knowledge). I’d say DU armor too but there’s currently no difference in how it’s modeled so kind of a moot point.
Yep. If the sources for that happened to somehow satisfy them, then that’s the best we can aspire to.
They will never accept the modern 600mm+ KE estimates for SEPv3 without seven official documents specifying the KE effectiveness down to the very last milimeter.
That being said, I would welcome even 550mm KE; with the fuel tanks and their bulkheads, they may ocassionally stop some shells from certain angles at some distances, I guess.
If only they fixed the fuel tank bulkheads (missing plates and thickness) and the DAM TURRET RING, though… but they won’t either.
Ugh. See? This is the kind of stuff why I’ve been growing distant and disillusioned with War Thunder lately.
It’s a whole back and forth, depending on what you want to go by
XF-2B was the first fighter to fly with AESA radar and the first to be armed | around 1996
F-15C (AN/APG-63(V)2) was the first AESA fighter to properly enter service | 1999
F-2 was the first purpose built AESA fighter to enter service | September 2000
F-15C (AN/APG-63(V)2) was the first AESA fighter to have a full squadron in service just three months after the first F-2 entered service | December 2000