Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Was trying to go a little lower personally (12.3 ARB is a pretty painful area for subsonics IMO)

I feel like given it’s subsonic we should be aiming for lower rather than higher etc
~10.7-11.0 ish

Worse comes to worse it’s been advertised with Magic 2s lmao

wonder how low we could get it with active skyflash given skyflash frankly terrible range and thats from a tornado

The reservation I have is that PD radar. If it was just an SRC radar, then yeah, easy. But that PD… I can see them not wanting it much below 11.3. 11.0 might just about be possible, but 10.7… I seriously doubt it. Though would be hilarious to slap RWR-less 9.7s with a Skyflash/Skyflash DF

I am still waiting for my response.

Well done. You’ve made it 12.7 minimum.
And anyway Skyflash has poor kinematic range, A.Skyflash is just a new seeker no? So that doesn’t solve the kinematic issues.

Yeah true, given it’s sub-sonic though…

I recall playing the AV-8B+ before ARH was added back when it had 4x 9M and was 12.3 (IIRC) in Air RB. I enjoyed it a lot. I still like playing it at 13.0 now that it has ARH, but miss the old days.

There was just something magical about Harrier II flight performance at 12.3 with IRCCM missiles.

Yeah, which is why I reckon they’ll counter act the subsonic status with better AAMs, like Aim-9Ls.

But I guess we’ll just have to wait and see

It is surely those Americans making every possible excuse to not add this unique Abrams.

that is what I mean I could see it being in the 12.0 range just due to the fact it would only get 2 is sub sonic and the missiles have terrible range

in my experience, these days, Soemtimes can be really fun and then immdiately followed by a chore of a match. Map, exact MM range, etc etc just has an overwhelming impact on its performance.

I still play the GR7 from time to time, but it can be a little hit and miss. In an uptier vs Fox-3s and the high performance Fox-1 slingers… It can be a chore

I am very sure it more like a Sep v2.5

wish GRB wasnt so congested would probably be fun if it werent facing F-15Es and Su30SM every game

Yeah…

True!

I don’t have the GR7 yet and now that you mention it things have changed a lot, as I didn’t have to face fox 3s back then.

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but it don’t use 829,it use kew

Having played the Harrier T.10 a fair bit, which is 11.3, uptiers are pretty brutal these days in that range, there’s not much you can do to with 9Ls if people are paying attention, and (smart) supersonics can just run away.

yeah fighting a F4F ICE in a Phantom FGR2 with Skyflash DF and 9Gs is not fun…

That right there is the problem. 9Ls have been utterly butchered. I remember when you had to cut AB to flare one

Uhh sorry for the old geezer vibe, I might be reminiscing too much

Its why im really happy we’ve finally got a 12.3 SB bracket. Just need a new map (and a total gamemode update) and I might start playing SB again

Hence I’d rather the Hawk 200 not have 9Ls and sit at a lower BR.
It’s just not worth it IMO