Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Too bad MG 151 is so miserable to use, its a shame, i will say Finland made playing rank IV sweden somewhat functional, the J21s are so meh. A energy turn fighter which cant climb well and loses to most other planes in a turn fight lol. Guess it’s a taste of sweden air for the rest of the tree lol.

As for Finland it was a mistake to add most of their mainline vehicles as premium and it has definitely killed their additions that could help sweden. Time and time again gaijin refuses to fix the problems with swedens air tree and would rather you pay for a aircraft that shouldve been in the TT

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are they really that bad, when I played it a lot like 2 months ago I loved the guns, so much better than 50 cals

13.2’s are good just they are on the worst aircraft lol. Hell the A21RB and J21RA jets shouldve been the early models with the 13.2mm guns. But thats the sad things isn’t it. The only reason they are so high is the guns.

Name a more iconic duo than sweden air taking L after L lol, guess Ariete armor fixes

other way around, Bf. 109 is a Pyörremyrsky from Temu

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meant the 50 cals on the American planes. the ones on the a21rb or whatever the jet one is feel godly

it’s quite sad what Realshatter did to MG151/20s

even tho it's literally gor 3 times the shell volume compared to other, much better performing 20mm rounds currently in game Like those from the ShVak

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due to the realistic shatter mechanics, 15120 and ShVak‘s damage is similar.
the real problem is 15120’s terrible ballistic performance. and ShVak has full he belt with tracer, 15120 don’t, and 15120’s tracer has different ballistic

The a21 and j21 non jets use 13.2mm machine guns as they added he filler since the swedish wanted more he in their 50 cal they uppped the size. So what you get is a cannon and 50 cal hybrid which decides to rip planes apart. Just imagine if any of the 13.2mm guns were mounted on a good plane for once lol.

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I find stealth belts work better for dealing with planes when using the MG 151

And given gaijin removed all tracers on jets for sweden for 3 years im very good with stealth belts

stealth belts have more HE rounds, and as I said, tracer in 15120 is just misleading you, you will never hit enemy with HE rounds if you follow the tracer

Ammo belts still for some reason use the velocity of whatever the first round is right?

ShVak’s Projectile are literally 1/4 the size of an MG151/20s projectile

there’s no way these shells should deal the same damage

the Ballistic of the MG151 Isn’t bad, it’s well within the Acceptable range imo, I’ve never had problems hitting with it

yes, but in this case, it reduced the inaccuracy, but still big gap between HE and tracer

no, every round is calculated differently

so if you have very light tracers and heavy HE shells that tracer won’t hit at the same place as the Tracer

he mean the bug discovered recently.
different kind of shell should have different launch speed, but it’s discovered that they all share the speed of first shell in belt
you are talking the aerodynamic difference, this is how they still has difference in ballistic

I’m just explaining the game mechanism. but IMO, current damage is enough, it’s not the damage problem. 15120 didn’t change much, it’s the ShVak catch up by realistic shatter mechanism

hey now, look at it this way at least its more effort than the Thai ground subtree was…

Honestly the future prospects for any future subtrees and new nations in general are looking bleak with how much “effort” gaijin is putting into maximizing how much of a given branch they can make copy and paste while making the unique stuff largely end of line or either event or premium.

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Ill give it that, they looked like they were gonma try with hungry then flopped back to back but 2 unique tanks on launch matches Finland for unique groumd additions. Leo Marksman and Bt-42, next to Dtingray and Oplot

Hawk 200 devblog plz plz plz plz

Nooo, D.XXIII blog : (

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the devblog will be something with wheels