Wdym tactical disadvantage. Argentine jets barely had enough fuel to make it there and back, no countermeausres vs 9L and final gen rear aspect AIM-9, decent radars, the Argentine jets were in much worse condition too
Right… So saying “but look, it got the most kills” doesnt really mean much in terms of actual performance against comprable airframes nor in WT does it mean the F-14 should somehow be OP
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So does the B-2 that doesn’t make it a good fighter
The Argentines had supersonic aircraft, an excellent land based radar on the Falklands that gave them a huge tactical advantage and enough pilots to mean that they at least got decent rest between sorties.
Both the SHars and the Argentine aircraft were low on fuel when they met. Most of the SHars did not have CMs either. Only a few on Hermes had them and they were mostly tasked with ground attack. Those on invincible tasked with air defence, did not.
Aim-9Ls were an advantage, although not a single shot was made that an Aim-9G couldnt have also handled.
Blue Fox was not a decent radar for the conflict.
Argentine jets were in a much worst conditon (though the Mirages I think were actually in pretty good condition) but the pilots of the SHars were doing 2+ sorties per day for 3 months straight. They were exhausted by the end of it (like for example Sharkey Ward accidentally firing an Aim-9L instead of dropping a bomb at the start of a CAP sortie)
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Idk to me it just sounds like you’re saying the F-14 is the most iconic plane of all time because I can’t find a single instance of this happening anywhere else in military aviation. Sure, it’s a “propaganda piece” but your original point was it wasn’t the most iconic. It’s also next to the most combat proven airplane in the 4th generation.
Hu?
What are you on about?
By that logic, the Tornado Gr1 is vastly superior to the F-111 in ground attack because the Tornado Gr1 has more A2A kills.
I don’t know what you’re trying to drag this to, but I’m talking about real life. Not Warthunder.
Not once did I allude to it’s performance in WT???
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Don’t think they even had fuel to spare to go supersonic. Just having Supersonic jets doesn’t mean much since the British also had radars on their ships so Shar could just be positioned and they had AAM to close the gap. The difference between the Argentines and British is that they had carriers closer than the Argentines had airfields to safely return to
Eh, idk the US doesn’t need everything it makes nor should anyone else. I just want minor nations to get up to the level of the US by any means possible and then we can start to ask about X, Y and Z.
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That’s the opposite of what I mean. Typhoon being able to carry out basic airstrikes does not make it a good fighter just like B-2 being able to carry out airstrikes does not make it a good fighter
US and Britain have lost their title to the slowest vehicle cause holy hell im gonna lose it.
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I agree (Although F-15SE would be cool)… But how does this retain to the discussion that’s been going on for 20+ minutes now? Unless you’re somehow saying the F-14D shouldn’t be included in the US TT?
Slower than T95?
Nah, US should be able to still get it’s stuff and minor nations are called minor nations for a reason.
If you really care that much about equal number of vehicles then you better start counting serials
It reverses 90% of the time at -1kph, and movings isn’t an option it gets stuck on everything and if you do move it won’t turn so you get forwards and no left and god forbid trying to reverse.
That’s rough
Just look at some of my clips its horrible lol. Its like watching the T28 but worse
mmmm 9Ls on a subsonic platform with no flares “fun”
They had enough.
Due to the position of the pickets, they did not have perfect coverage, nor could they see something flying in low over the Islands themselves.
Hu? Again, they never once used Aim-9Ls in all-aspect.
No, they didnt. The Carriers were being kept far enough away to keep them as safe as possible from air attack. The SHars had very limited time on station, even with max fuel and 100 gal fuel tanks. Its why they were doing so many sorties. I cant remember the exact figure, but a pair of SHars was taking off something like once every hour to maintain 3 CAP stations over the Falklands
What I’m saying is not everything should be added all at once and one update after the other. Sure it will props get added at some point but after 3 hornets I think the US can ride on not getting anything for a couple of updates while other nations get something meaningful.
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