Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Exactly. So the modern stuff is different. Of course the ww2 and cold war stuff is pretty similar

lol

It has the most kills of any 4th generation fighter and the most ace pilots of the 4th Generation. That’s much more than nothing. How many kills does the Eurofighter have again?

The F-15 was lobbied in every time the F-14 and F-15 were put up against each other. Germany and Japan were ready to buy the F-14s in large quantity when lots of politicians with stakes in MD went to the DoD and had export restrictions put on the F-14 claiming the AWG-9 and Aim-54 Phoenix were “too powerful for export” after they had just finished talking it up with German and Japanese reps about how bad the F-14 was. The only reason Iran got it was because the Shah wanted it (He was a good pilot and had taste in aircraft so no surprise) and the US wanted him on good terms for his “democracy” and oil.

The F-15 Eagle has the highest number of confirmed air-to-air kills among fourth-generation fighter jets, try again buddy

Unlike the Americans. Most other nations dont make a habbit of getting involved with every single possible conflict or trying to start conflicts with every single nation (including allies)

Though, for the record. The Typhoon has an exceptionally good service record when deployed in Op Shader providing CAS and performing air strikes and imo, the most impressive combat record is still the SHar during the Falklands

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That’s because the UK and other users are sensible more than the US who past time is to interfere with other nations : )

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The F-15 Eagle has 104 kills. The F-14 has a minimum of 132.

Iranian F-14s got 98% of it’s kills with barely any support. America got like 4 kills with it.

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No he’s right about that

Thought it was more than 4

Still lost 4 though to the F-15 0 :P

That’s why the F-15 is considered the GOAT. The F-14 is a very good fighter as well

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Fair enough on that then, but still. F-14 wasnt exactly going up against peer aircraft. To use WT has a basis of comparison. it was a 13.0 fighting 10.3-11.7s. Of course it got a lot of kills.

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The IRIAF we have is very different from the F-14A they used back then, no sedjeel or fakour

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Still a 12.7 then

Mb it was 5 they shot down a Mi-8 during Lebanon

405 error sigh

What the Shar did was just as bad if not worse if talking difference in ability tbh

That’s the point. The F-15 and F-14 were just advanced for their time. There’s not an equivalent because they were made to be better than adversaries. War isn’t supposed to be a coinflip.

Anyway my point still stands it’s a propaganda piece they know this otherwise they won’t set up recruitment stalls for every time a top gun movie airs. We don’t do that in Britain when a Spitfire is shown or a sea harrier.

Not really?

FRS1e is 10.7 (and stronger than most of the SHars that actually handled A2A combat as they have CMs)

The Daggers were upgraded Neshers which are 10.0 in game, so Id assume 10.3 if added. They had Mirage 3Es which are 10.7 and A-4s which are between 8.7-9.0. So those are lower, but the SHars went 23-0 whilst outnumber 10-1 and with major tactical disadvnatages.

To use WT again. It would be like if 2x FRS1es took on 20 enemy aircraft ( a mix of Neshers, Mirage 3Es and A-4s), with the Shars having no markers and the enemy team having markers and the Shars winning 20-0.

Gotta admit, that is rather impressive.