Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

you’re giving up 8 AiM-120s but you’re also getting 4 AiM-174s so that equals out to a net loss of 4 AiM-120

and a NET weight gain of 2000kg or 13 AMRAAM weights (Pylon weight Ignored)

youre free to choose as you like

yk I’d like to see MiG-25 for the funnies but I just really can’t see that happening at all

and on the MiG-31 even people that try to argue against every detail I talk about it agree that it’s not coming because it doesn’t fit the game

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The mig25/31 isn’t fitting for the game therefore it can’t be added, is not an argument, since the F117 exists and it’s BR placement in air battles makes it’s niche useless as well as not even having a gun to defend itself, or even in ground battles where the range in which you will engage against spaas is not large enough for the stealth to properly work.

So a mig25/31 will be far more fitting in currrent war thunder than the F117 ever was

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china has no r37m, their su35s are only equiped with r77-1

You can keep claiming F-15, Mig-31, Su-27, etc don’t fit into the game all you want.

Mig-23M, Mig-25, F-104, etc too.

@Farlexgamer_psn
That’s a false equivalence. Mig-25 is easily comparable to F-104s.
And Mig-31 is easily comparable to F-15s and Su-27s.

If maneuverability was everything F-15E would be 13.3 with the Mig-29SMT.

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it can get it off the basis that su-35 is compatible with it. see: f15jm with aim 120as or f15e with mavs

or swiss f18 with bombs

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and thats where you’re wrong

because even if all its advantages are gone the F-117 is still a bomber and perfectly good at bombing things, it fulfills the Minimum requirements for a Jet bomber: Hold bomb

the MiG-25/31are Fighter/Interceptor aircraft and DO NOT fill the minimum requirements for Jet Fighters which are : be able to shoot sth down

thats also why we dont have still like the Su-15, or F-102 in game because their main prey plane group, the long range Jet bombers, arent being added because Gaijin clearly thinks theres no point in doing that

a Fighter that cant do more than 5G isnt gonna be worth the balance effort

25 and 31 are niche aircraft than won’t come to tech trees. They are equivalent to 50s or 60s interceptors from US that barely anyone remembers

The closest thing to F-106 is Su-15TM and can easily place at 10.3

other than the F-104 the MiG-25 aint got no guns to defend itself

It is not false equivalence.

Do you really think that the F117, a plane with no guns, no countermeasures, no missiles or radar, is somehow more fittimg in war thunder than a Mig25/31 which (at least in later variants) get most if not all of those?

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and the Su-15 was Officially denied together with the then in the talks MIG-21P on the Old forum, back when the MiG-21F13 and F-100 were top dogs

not really, that thing gets flares and all aspect missiles while having much better missiles (r60m)

That is the thing we do not know, we do not even know if this SU35 can carry two pylons in the center and we can see that it has some physical differences compared to the Russian ones, if i had to guess i say they will add it with r77-1 once r37m gets added to the normal one so it works as a filler aircraft

Neither does the Sea Vixen nor A-6E with its maximum loadout.
Some F-35s won’t either.

And Sea Vixen is my highest KDR vehicle… so much for that “No gun = can’t defend itself.”

Also your post claimed Mig-31, an equivalent to F-15; which is the implication in your posts.

I never claimed Su-27 or F-15 dont fit the game

where did you get that idea from?

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A6E has gunpods availible

Does not mean anything. Any in game jet can carry better missiles than it currently has

su-35 brochure says it can carry 4x r-37m, and im sure export su-35s = su-35

Good thing there’s a BR system to make your post’s statement irrelevant.