I thought you meant the Type 45 Destroyer for a moment then :D
Was very confused
it should not unless gaijin is going to model missile seekers properly
otherwise the AAM-4 will probably stay like it is while the AAM-4B gets a range increase over it, even tho they should be the same
To be fair this is assuming everything is modeled correctly. So what would your answer be then?
sure but then the question is what aircraft should recive them
becasue there is no more modern F-2 variant they could add and i dont think that it should recive a better missile which would increase its BR, because it isnt doing that good at its current BR due to its loadout limitations and lack of a HMD
so there is only the F-15J(M) left where it could be added to, which would be a nice addition to make it a bit more relevant for the future, which is also able to recive the AAM-5
besides that there arent any aircraft that could recive the AAM-4B besides a planed F-15 upgrade, as far as i know
so unless gaijin wants to add that one to leave the F-15J(M) as it is, the F-15J(M) would be the best option to add both the AAM-4B and AAM-5
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Talked with someone who is a fan of Japanese aviation. From their perspective F-15JM does not have the radar to keep up with AESA technologies and whatever would come in the future in the 14.3 BR range, so they would prefer the F-2A to instead get it, and I can understand it from that perspective.
The F-15JM would have a pretty shabby radar when expecting it to guide AAM-4B at longer ranges while AESA radars have exceptional tracking and guidance. F-2A currently also is said to have the best flight model in the game in terms of dogfighting, so I think it would be “natural” in terms of flight model and technology for the current F-2A to receive the AAM-4B and in the future to receive the AAM-5 IIR missiles.
the F-15 has a few things that would make it more usefull in WT regardless if it will be an IIR meta or Fox-3 meta:
- a HMD
- less loadout restrictions
- better acceleration
and in the confines of WT it would be a way better contender for the AAM-5
ontop of that FM wise the F-2 isnt the best for raw WVR performance and it would only suffer from IIR missile spam without a HMD to counter launch
the F-15J(M) radar is more than good enough imo, sure it isnt the best but it will work, also its flight performance isnt that bad either with being somewhere in between the F-15A and teh F-15C
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I suppose the community/devs can figure out which aircraft or whether maybe both should get the AAM-4B. It just seems logical to me though that it should come next whatever the state of its modeling.
I agree, giving AAM-4B to F-2A and giving AAM-4B better tracking/resistance to notching/chaff would make it better than the F-15J(M) imo and properly crown the Japanese line with their own aircraft.
Also I’m not sure the extent to how ECM will play in WT but I assume an AESA radar would be instrumental to that compared to a regular PD radar.
Yeah AESA should withstand jamming better, and allowing better burn through but I’ll have to double check this.
Further, if they do add datalink, F-2A would be a better support to teammates since AESA maintains track on targets and also provides much better tracking. High quality datalink can make or break a team, so now that I think more about it the F-2A is more future proof than the F-15JM.
Unfortunately that nerf really exposed the underlying bad low-speed ergonomics the flight model currently has.
Yea, while the lack of HMD and arguably 2 less ARH missiles is a minus, I think after using the AESA radar of the F-2, the APG-63 is a painful downgrade in every way.
If the F-2 had better radar missiles, that made it deadly at closer ranges, it would be well suited to current meta and beyond.
I’d also argue it’s possible they will give the F-2 HMD in the future anyway for balance reasons (similar to how the Thai F-16A has it when it shouldn’t).
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I would say the F-2A is already really strong in WVR even if it lacks HMD, but an edge in BVR missiles with the AAM-4B should make it much better overall I would assume. My assumption is that the F-2A is lacking more in BVR (>30km) than WVR (<20km) from my experience fighting against it, let me know if I’m wrong or not.
AAM-4B with AESA seeker should give it an edge in BVR with each missile having a normally higher kill rate than other missiles even if there’s only 4 on the F-2A.
Yea the biggest issue (and really the only issue imo) is that the F-2 has only 4 radar missiles so you will lose in a war of attrition against most opponents. This can be mitigated by not being the center of attention, but having any attention means you have to play defensive and give away advantage. However, one can argue that’s good because once they get into WVR, you win.
From my limited time in ARB, as long as the team doesn’t crumble and you have some terrain or just go into the battle later, you can perform well.
Yup and would make it at least something to fear in typical ARB gameplay.
Aside from having the Welsh dragon painted on her bow (despite not being Welsh), I don’t think a Type 45 would have any other positives in the game.
Depends what impact CAS has on a typical game if/when we get to that point
Every other missile destroyer has AA capabilities
And none of it will really matter since spawning in aircraft would be even more difficult than it is now.
(which is a good thing)
plus why bother with a Type 45 when you could have a Burke or one of her Asian cousins :^)
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As much we want Thai pfp’s I unfortunately don’t seeing that happening any time soon due to the lack of pfp from other minor nations