Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

to please some ppl in this very forum… i rather have a compromise than nothing at all.

Thats not the case at all.

A new variant is not always an upgrade of an existing airframe. Much like F-4F, which was a package installed on existing airframes.

This also again has no real meaning here at all. So its still not clear what your point is. We have a later version of the F-4F in the ICE.

Very much so. The Tornado ADV is a very different airframe to a Tornado GR.1 (IDS).

lets ignore that the ADV had 80% parts commonality with the Tornado IDS here, right?

Would you happen to know if we should expect other vehicles to get their Falcon missiles now that we are seeing gaijin finally add them?

correct, the F-4F is still missing its correct loudout. And please dont say “well yea but the ICE has them”

Still, 2 different planes

well… phantoms used them, but we cant possibly add new weapons to them… right smin?

New stock missile for the F-15

Also the Drakens but who cares about them. Its why i simplified it to vehicles.

i mean, if its the same plane, why did we have to reseach it twice? and not just add the ICE as a mod for the existing F-4F…

Novody said anything about ignoring that.

Its just not accurate at all to say the F-4F to F-4F ICE is the same as what the Tornado IDS is to the ADV.

One was a modernisation and life extension upgrade, the other was a different variant entirely for an entirely different role and purpose.

Regardless, your original question to the devs was answered. So thats quite enough entirety off topic derailment please.

On the note of missing armaments, R-73 and 77 to the Yak-141 when?

Also now that 14.3 air is coming does that mean all nations without a 14.3 are going to get something on PAR or should we expect the nations with 14.3’s to get new vehicles before the aforementioned lacking nations?

except it wasnt. the ICE added BVR to an airframe that didnt have the capability before. the F-4F became a BVR capable interceptor, whilest prior to that, it was mainly used as a CAS platform that could defend itself with some shortrange heatseekers.

Many aircraft could have better missile loadouts but do not in game. The F-4F is not an exception to this. Much like the F-4E and British Phantoms too.

Once again, weaponary is subject to balance and the devs discretion.

While talking about the F-4F, what are the chances for the F-4F Early to get Flares/Chaff? :)

F-4F was the baseline model with cheaped out internal from the US, the other was upgrade ergo different variant entirely for an entierely different role and purpose

Perhaps in your opinion. Which you are welcome to hold. Just not required to continue off topic hete.

Su-30MkM and F-15SG for japan pls and thanks

No current plans.