Will this be the right time to give us this B2 Centaur for Italy in the next update?
So the Harrier T10 with 60cms vs AV-8B(NA) with 180 CMs is fair. But Harrier T10 with 60 CMs and 2x BOL vs AV-8B(NA) with 180 CMs is unfair?
Or how about Harrier Gr1 with no CMs vs AV-8A with 240 CMs?
Oh no… anyway
Never said that, only that the engine thing isn’t really comparable.
It’s the exact same difference in CM as in the T10 and NA but it’s not an issue because it’s a US plane? The MLU 2 gets over a thousand but that’s perfectly fine, the Typhoon gets over 300+whatever other internal CM it has, the Gripen gets 640+ a little under a hundred large countermeasures, but it’s fine for F-15 to not have them?
yeah, the fat man’s armata. i know what i said
Except it is.
US got an upgraded engine for the F-15E because the F-15I got an upgraded engine.
But Tornado Gr1 cant get the same engine as every other tornado IDS in game, because… BS reasons.
T10 got half its IRL CM load, because the US’s equivalent had its full IRL CM load
240 is plenty for top tier, an extra 120 isnt going to be that felt. But 60 CMs in the hottest aircraft in game, when you also need chaff… would render it unplayable. Would have needed to be 11.0 and not 11.3 at a minimum.
Mostly BOL, but and?
Again, mostly BOL.
Mostly BOL
Yep. Why does the US have to always be the best. You already have one of the best BVR jets in the game that will easily beat both the F-18 and the Gripen C most of the time. Sure the Typhoon can match it, but you have an easier time defending than the Typhoon does.
Why is it that “minor nation is a LOT weaker than the US” the response “well, that minor nation is bad” but the US is slightly weaker than a minor nation its “quick, call in teh national guard, this is a national insult, we declare war”
Oh no, the US isnt meta at top tier…
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I don’t think BOL on the F-15 will overthrow the Rafale meta
Given multiple other nations do not have F-15E equivalents yet like Japan, Sweden and China. F-15E doesnt need to be buffed yet. Still joint best BVR jet in game
I see the R&R has once again become the Britain suffers thread…
Anyways uh… i need more MiGs and the F-14D pls and thanks
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so uh what did the new datamine for the harrier actually do?
some phoenix v axehead action?
There were Harrier changes?
Ngl, I’m wondering what this game would be like if there were no country line ups, just take what you like from a certain br and slap them on the same loadout.
(Certainly much less bickering)
Spoiler
- AV-8A, AV-8C, B.KhL.1K (“AV-8S (early)”), B.KhL.1K (“AV-8S (late)”), Harrier G.R. Mk. 1, Harrier G.R. Mk. 3, Sea Harrier F.R.S. Mk. 1 (early), Sea Harrier F.R.S. Mk. 1 (late), Sea Harrier F.A. Mk. 2:
- FM format updated,
- wing:
- arm longitudinal coordinate shift by AoA adjusted:
- will not shift until past 20 deg AoA by 0.1 unit,
- 0% flap deployment:
- lift coefficient after critical AoA increased from 0.72 to 0.92,
- critical AoA increased from [-21 deg / 21 deg] to [-23 deg / 23 deg],
- wing arm shift by Mach number adjustments:
- at M0 will now shift longitudinally by -0.06 units instead of 0,
- at M0.2 will now shift longitudinally by -0.06 units instead of 0,
- at M0.8 will shift back to neutral,
- 100% flap deployment:
- lift coefficient after critical AoA increased from 1.12 to 1.42,
- critical AoA increased from [-20 deg / 21 deg] to [-21 deg / 26 deg],
- wing arm shift by Mach number adjustments:
- at M0 will now shift vertically by 0.25, longitudinally by -0.12 units instead of 0,
- at M0.2 will now shift vertically by 0.25, longitudinally by -0.12 units instead of 0,
- at M0.8 will now shift vertically by 0.3, longitudinally by -0.02 units instead of 0,
- will mean generally slightly more available AoA and better lift at high AoA and while stalled,
- arm longitudinal coordinate shift by AoA adjusted:
- aileron controller:
- sensitivity decreased from 0.22 to 0.2,
- sensitivity change depending on Cl change from [0, 0] to [0.01, -0.01]
- will mean generally slightly less effective roll control and increased/decreased respectively depending on change in Cl (e.g. pulling AoA),
- elevator controller:
- sensitivity multiplier adjustments:
- at M0 from 1.0 to 1.6,
- at M0.3 from 1.0 to 1.6
- will mean more effective pitching control and increased responsiveness until M0.9,
- sensitivity multiplier adjustments:
- now has oil,
- increased maximum thrust from 6000 to 8000 kgf for frontal bleed air nozzle, leading to more thrust used for pitch control while VTOLing,
- increased maximum thrust from 5000 to 6000 kgf for tail bleed air roll nozzle, leading to more thrust used for roll control while VTOLing
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Mayhaps
(Though i am more interested in more 29s than anything since they are nice looking aircraft but a 31 would be cool too)
Looks like they are getting a bit more lift and better turn rate, also some increased thrust for VTOL’ing for better control. Should be a nice little buff for all the Harriers but we’ll have to wait and see what it’s like on live.
Where is that from?
And… looks like more low speed handling and better VTOL handling
Hu… Thank you. I checked the “Data mine” tag and its not listed
Sweet, Blue Vixen is finally getting some of the fixes that should have come with the CAPTOR-M. Wonder if that will include its TWS GMTI and TWS SEA modes too.
And? Not every plane is going to be cookie cutter equivalent to each other there will be upsides and downsides. The F-2, Gripen, and J-10 would all beat an F-15E in a WVR fight because the F-15E’s are suited for BVR, that’s just how it is
It’s joint best BVR with the typhoon which also happens to be much, much better in WVR and general handling (good for low flying and evasive action so no it’s not a gunfight thing), so getting BOL to make up for the huge disadvantage in WVR and handling is pretty fair
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