people also seem to forget the EFT was built for Europe not for outside export (which also means when anyone wants to sell their EFTs everyone needs to agree)
F-35 is cheaper… if discussion is about purchase price
from what i found the cost of the Gripen E is estimated at 85 million US$ and the EF at around 110 million US$ so it dosent even cost half as much as the gripen
and the F-35 was built for export because the US didnt want another F-22 situation where its way to expensive to actually built on their own
it wasnt,
he was just trying to spread Gripen propaganda
From what I understand though, its also the maintenance cost is much lower as well, about half
but even then you are only going to reach that difference in cost after 20 or 30 years if not more
Would be on development aircraft, and for that reason I think it’s about as likely as getting an F-15E with outer pylons and Taurus missile
Yeah, but from what I understand, that was a core part of Swedens plan. Knowing full well the Rafale and EFT already existed, adding a third euro-canard to compete was pretty dumb.
So instead they went for a different slice of the market
and would have the issue of who does it go to since pretty much everyone has a similar claim to it lol
Not even the F-22’s fault though, if they made the original 750 it would be much closer to the Typhoon unit cost
Maybe even cheaper
still its far cheaper if you get like 15 other countries to also foot the bill lol
same could be said about the EFT if everyone bought their full orders (if I remember right germany cancelled a lot)
How much did they really pay though? Imo the whole F-35 project should’ve just stayed between US and UK and then later been exported.
Eurofighter Typhoon FGR.4:
You got me there. You still purposely excluded EW though…
Not necessarily. Geometrically, it has to fit too.
Again, ?? Where are you getting your info. I literally infer in the reply that there are Brazilian Gripen E’s. And Colombia and Canada are looking to get them too.
This is a render too. Renders mean nothing. But hey, if it’s possible, it should’ve already been bugreported. We both know why that’s not the case.
I think you’re trying to argue with someone who doesn’t exist. The F-15EX is even better than the Gripen E…
It’s the most maneuverable F-15 by far…
Agreed, but it also has the weapons avionics to back it up. It’s probably on par/slightly worse than the Eurocanards. I misspoke when including it with the F-15EX and Gripen. I meant the SU-35.
bro 😭
really?
Yeah it’s got FBW, better elevator deflection, and the engines help a ton.
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I still think trenche 4 EFTs will win 9/10 fights against an F-15EX do I think it will be more of a challenger for sure but I still see the EFT being the better plane
I should specify for A2A in A2G unless we get MMV brimstone 3s the its an easy sweep for the F-15EX
Yeah, you’re right — Red Flag stats back that up. There’s a book called EUROFIGHTER by a guy who took part in the Red Flags (can’t remember his name though). He said the Su-27 was built to take on the F-15, and the Eurofighter was built to take on the Su-27. You do the math :)