Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

A particular type of weapon system appearing on a ground unit (of any kind) is not a given that it would come to air at the same time. Its one thing to have a ground-to-air platform, but an entirely different beast in the air-to-air environment and the impact that has on that gameplay.

So anything added for ground shouldn’t be taken as an automatically confirmed addition to air at the same moment in time.

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We could, but there’s enough stuff that can go to the strike line so maybe premium I guess

The problem is there’s no navy line for the J-15, so I don’t see any other good option than squadron. We could put both the J-15 and J-15T as squadrons tho

Haven’t made enough research on these, I’ll have to yeah

If Pakistan is what Gaijin picks as China’s subtree, then more JF-17s can come in the 5th line

Yeah but doesn’t mean it is miles away

But yeah starting it with ground only would be fine

i say that again: IRAN SHOULD NOT BE A SUBTREE OF RUSSIA AT ALL
iran and russia have been enemies for the past two centuries
russia even took a large land from iran
iranians never like russian government im sure more than 80 percent

im iranian myself

it make no sense

actually, very far.
think about how long between manpads and current top missiles.
current top ir missiles are just 3 gen, while manpads have 4 gen seeker.
iris-t is 5 gen

What you know some of the air to air missiles in game should have both IRCCM types anyway which is the only difference

J-15 and J-15T as squadron vehicle is a crime. My opinion it should go to strike line because IRL it uses for strike and anti-ship missions

I mean even Russia got its Su-33 as squadron
I agree it’s a bit sad but we can’t have everything in the tree

Su-33 exists in one variant, J-15 have a lot of Batches, modifications and so on. I’m almost 100% sure that Gaijin won’t put any of J-15 variants to squadron. If we compare Su-33 and J-15, its like baby vs nuclear bomb. J-15 even the earliest variant have huge air to ground arsenal and fox 3 PL-12, the latest J-15T and J-15D have AESA and PL-15

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They are friends now though
Military cooperation, economic support Iran is one of Russias strongest relationships.

Personally I would put mobility over armour. Type 10s being fast makes them survivable

Are they fast though, on par with leopards isnt exactly fast

They are actually from experience probably the fastest MBT. IDK about ariete but it’s 100% faster than sth like 99A. Acceleration and also partly easier to control, the 99A is a bit wobbly.

70 km/h forwards and reverse. If gaijin would model the type 10s transmission correctly it would have even better mobility

would make more sense than having it in the US tech tree

Not really, neither make sense

i agree, but also it’d be nice to have variety. France has Leclercs and Leopards, USA has HSTVL/RDFLT + Abrams, Italy has Ariete, Centauro + Leopard, Sweden has CV90120, Strv + Leopard, etc. Pretty much half the nations in the game has either a more Armoured or Mobile MBT, or has a Light vehicle + MBT at 11.7/12.0. I think it’d be nice for all nations in the game to have a MBT and Light(-like) Vehicle at top tier.

As for nations I haven’t mentioned,
USSR can uptier 2S25M, 2S38 or BMP-2M, UK can uptier Rooikat 105 (similar to how Japan can uptier Type 16), China has VT5, Israel has Namer Trikshon. The reason I didn’t mention them is that they’re all sort of lacking in variety at 11.0+ (every vehicle but Namer and VT5 are below 11.0). I just think it’s nice and interesting for every nation to have two playstyles at 11.0+.

(FRA) Leclercs are more mobile, Leopards are more armoured, better round, more crew
(USA) HSTVL/RDFLT is more flexible, fast and has quicker reload, Abrams are more armoured, better round, more competitive
(ITA) Centauro / Ariete are more mobile, Leopard is more armoured, better round

you get my point. Japan top tier has just Type 90/10/TKX MBTs. All vehicles that prioritize mobility over armour. Uptiering the Type 16 just gives you a bit more speed. I think it’d be nice for Japan to have a vehicle that can tank a round or two and play differently than the light(er) vehicles.

T-84 would also be unique in a way, as the T-84 could only really come as an event to USSR or as a Ukrainian tree/subtree- both of which aren’t too likely honestly. I imagine other countries/regions would be prioritized as some massive militaries still aren’t represented well ingame (LATAM, Turkiye, MENA, etc.

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I don’t think this one is a good example of something that adds variety. It’s just a worse Merkava with scouting lol.

i thought so too, but felt like it had to be mentioned in some capacity

That’s actually not true. The Leclerc in game has slightly lower acceleration and equivalent or worse than the leopard 2A6, M1A2… the Leclerc gearbox is complete garbage and it’s one of the only high tier MBT to slightly underperform compared to IRL (when most other overperform from a lit time but - M1A2, Leopard - to overperforming with a wide margin - T80, Challenger).
So the Leclerc isn’t more mobile and is worse armored

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