Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Ewwwww, get that decal away from me

Oh no you poked the “mUh WrAppppToR nUmBa OnE” crowd. I try to tell them this but I always start crying about something.

It would make sense for the Belgium one for the BP and the France one for the tree.
Plus would make sense if they added the French one and the Italian one for the next update

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Belgian M46A1

Belgian M26A1

And a Belgian M47 too (but modified with a LRF and with APFSDS rounds in-service)

Belgian M47 “Antwerpen”

M47 antwerpen

But I would agree that a French one would be far more fitting.

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I guess the Belgian one does fit better as a BP reward, but that doesn’t mean I want it or any of the other M46s to be added.

Both Italy and France have plenty of other domestic modifications to go around, I don’t really see why we need to remove the identity of the U.S. M46 by giving it to two more nations.

Well stop exporting it then lol

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Belgian M47s were modified with LRFs? It does remind me of the similar upgrade conducted on the JPz 4-5.

At least we keep the a10 f14 and hopefully soon the F-22 and YF-23

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You did give the F-14 to Iran, though it’s in the US tree in game you can’t say you didn’t export it

I mean for in game purposes we keep the f14 and the others in US. And hopefully every advanced eagle

Yeah, a Cobelda FCS, also fitted to the Leopard 1 tank:

Image:

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp84m00044r000200890001-1

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Just saying, people like to brush off copy paste, but the issue grows with every example added.

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It’s only an issue if you want it to be an issue, you can just as well argue it’s accurate representation

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Well in ground RB the match maker is all over the place anyway it wasn’t like pre 17 when we had actual historical match maker.

Very interesting, it’s an indigenous Belgian upgrade that would help me justify seeing some of their less original vehicles in-game. After all, an LRF with HEATFS is quite the potent combo.

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I mean ahistorical clashing isn’t really related to C&P, it’s a different issue entirely. Copy paste is simply irritating because it results in more uneventful encounters and a lost incentive to play a nation’s unique stock in preference to those of foreign countries.

For example, if we were to give Japan Stuarts, M8 LACs, and captured Russian vehicles, there would not doubt be less interest in the admittedly weaker Ke-Ni and I-Go-Ko.

Likewise, do you not think that it would be disappointing to see people rack up kills in a Belgian or French M46 rather than say, a French vehicle that would actually represent the tree?

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In my view is, if that country service it then it should be added

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It is mostly a personal issue, but when I play 4.0 now, I cannot help but think about all of the more interesting artillery vehicles that would make me say “wow, I should really try out this nation, that tank looks pretty fun”. It gnaws away the point of nations, if they aren’t showcasing their vehicles.

That is actually more an issue of BR compression than anything, if the Stuarts, and M8s are so much better that they entice Japanese players away from domestic vehicles, to a detriment, then the balance is the issue, not the vehicles themselves, as you could very easily say that the same issue entices people away from Japan and towards “stronger” trees like the US and Russia.

The “issue of C&P” has never been clearly defined and generally seems to be based on a mix of feelings and opinions about who should have what with no specific logic to it. If you can define the issue to an enforceable degree, then great, but as far as I see it any definition of the “issue of C&P” requires too many exceptions to be implemented realistically

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I think it would be interesting to see historical arsenals in a separate game mode, but as it stands, multiplayer is not really suitable for this.