Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

The Tomcat update is a sudden drop, so, maybe

Not quite true. Mavs dont have IOG, the KH-38s do and its really strong.

That is very helpful. PL-8B literally is a minecraft arrow lol.

yeah, I often ignore this, it’s not very useful but is an advantage. 40% less hit time is powerful enough

Yup

  • Higher speed (meaning less time to target and less time for the target to react)
  • IOG (massively reducing the effectiveness of smoke)
  • continuous motor burn (means more likely to hit a moving target)

all give the KH-38s a notable advantage over the AGM-65.

Though I think the greatest advantage of them all is just that the Su-34 doesnt have to deal with Pantsirs. Fired off 3 PGMs the other day at a Pantsir, none made it to target

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I’m still angry about the brimstones. Gaijin really could of given them basic F&F capability.

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J-14 when gaijin

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not massively I think, maybe 1 in 3

seldom see a mav can’t hit a moving target, it still has enough mobility for a tank target, unless fire at a Heli, usually it’s the AGM-65D’s HEAT warhead problem, or too slow so enemy get behind something

Depends on what is smoking. If its something that can smoke and move quickly, then its more reliable. If its something really slow, say, a CR2, then its much harder. Also decent warhead size means it can splash kill light tanks and SPAA.

They can, but where AGM-65 or Brimstones have a short burn time and then guide onto target using that energy, the KH-38s just continue at the same speed. If the target is moving enough, it will slow the missile down and if its at the further limits of its range, then it might be enough to defeat it.

Its just a secondary buff that is worth mentioning

but mostly its the really short window to react to them that make them the most deadly

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Okay why does the tomcat actually look good in the J-11B livery

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Is that the chinese F-14 ?

a fiction, but almost came true, ended for being too expensive

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yeah but it has a much slower initial speed than the Python-3 for example this would help the missile to pull better at the start.

It depends on how Gaijin will implement the PL-8B, might be different.

Bröther may have some J-14? Give me some J-14 bröther.

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Why even compare the three? Kh-38 is in a league of it’s own.

Like yes, the 105mm is a good cannon, but it’s not a 120mm or 125mm. Just a different class altogether.

I’ve never had to intercept a Kh-38, but I’d imagine it’s hard. I’ve yet to see someone intercept them, I’ve only seen them miss from smoke/buildings/obstructions. Kh-29 however I’ve had intercepted plenty of times. Kh-29 is really the analogue to the AGM-65’s at least (even that’s a bit of a stretch).

Because they are currently direct competition at top tier. AGM-65 is literally the best AGM most nations have access too.

Until such time better AGMs are added for other nations, they are the only thing most nations have to equal the KH-38.

Brimstones could have been pretty close, but alas, was not to be

a good fire control radar is needed, AESA/PESA better, to know how many is in sky and which is the first to intercept

Brimstones are a meme imo. The only thing would’ve made them competitive, but still, not of the same class, is the payload (great HEAT/pen) and radar homing had they added it.

Youd trade speed and range for the quantity of missile carried and the seeker performance. Also Brimstone 2s match the KH-38 in terms of range and speed