Hope so as it would be such a banger update if they did do that, though the only source we have being a part of this tree is currently Thailand at present
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You think France needing Rafale is high on the list either?
I get what you mean about priorities, but Gaijin still has to try.
Plus technically Japan does need it for CAS which Japan is lacking as well. They do have the AJ but that is now a high tier, not top tier, CAS.
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Yeahhh its not like France doesnt have one of the best A2A kits and a really competitive A2G kit
Yeah, gameplay wise J(M) is good, but there is also the fact that the F-2 is really the last domestic addition to be relevant to top tier.
It’d be a shame if it ends up only being a niche option, since it is aguably Japans token fighter jet. So it should be introduced with equivalents.
Besides, I’d rather F-2 now and subtree later, Gaijin could use the extra time to complete the set of subtree nations before release again like their original plan was anyways before they almost messed it up last update.
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Fair.
But I’m very biased and unsympathetic towards CAS arguments when 9/10 countries SPAA is in the depressing state that it is lol.
No. Didn’t think F-15E was necessary when F-15C / F16C duo was already dominating either. But nothing I can do about that.
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Everyone has a gen 4 and has had one for a while now
Yea, nothing against you but we always get this from the other major nation players especially, saying minor nations don’t need anything but then turn a blind eye to the fact they get stuff they didn’t need either (like the F-15E to your point).
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Might be a reference to Germany, who have a gen 4, two of them even, but only a gen 3 platform for their fox 3 carrier.
They do now, but there was that prolonged period where the likes of UK/SWE were stuck on Phantom/Tornado/Viggen whilst everyone else was on fourth.
Also, I know Germany has Mig29, but their best thing is still a Phantom, so I still accept the argument they’re stuck in last gen to an extent.
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Tornado is a 4th gen lol, so is viggen
*with worse flight performance than most 3rd Gens
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They fixed the tornado fm iirc, it’s much better now than when it was new
Even fixed, it’s still awful compared to actual purpose built fighters.
An F-35 is much worse in a dogfight than an F-22 but both are still 5th gen fighters no?
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To this day, I still think the funniest thing snail has ever done is denying FGR2 9L’s at the same time they gave them to EJ Kai, on the basis that Japan would be suffering without a top tier longer than Britain, and then they immediately add 16AJ and Britain waits an eternity for Gripen lmao.
Yeah. But I’d hesitate to call Tornado a ‘fighter’.
There are dedicated a2a versions, but they all are capable of a2a
It’s like saying the strike eagle isn’t a fighter bc it trades some pure performance in a dogfight for better strike capabilities, it’s still able to carry missiles and everything just like the dedicated air superiority C
Ehhh. I don’t think they’re comparable examples.
F-15E is a strike aircraft, developed from what was originally a thoroughbred ASF platform.
ADV is an interceptor, developed from what was originally a thoroughbred IDS platform.
The former still holds almost all the A2A advantages of its predecessor, and the latter is shoehorning A2A into a platform which hardly had anything going for it in that regard to begin with.
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Wasn’t tornado meant to be able to do both from the start though? It was intended to have multiple specialized versions, it’s a multirole after all so it’s still definitively a 4th gen
Ehhh, yes and no.
From what I understand, GB/GER/ITA all wanted it to be a strike aircraft first and foremost, it was only really Britain who wanted an interceptor variant, to replace the aging Phantom / Lightning fleet, in the role of defending against a hypothetical Soviet bomber scenario.
Britain was looking at other options to this end, there was the proposal for the swing wing Phantom (F4-[FV]S). There was ideas floated about buying F-14’s. There was even a British / French project (AFVG) to develop an interceptor which eventually collapsed - and you can see the inspiration from that in what ultimately became Tornado.
Yes, it’s still technically a fourth gen, but i still wouldn’t call it a fourth gen fighter.
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Indeed. It is Britain who has the biggest desire for home defense since other nato air forces would cover Germany and Italy more. Italian ADVs were the result of leasing.
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