Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

Cant wait for the German Typhoon to get 120Bs and 9Ms with no mention of IRIS-Ts or Meteors.

Both would be game breaking.

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Yeah the Su-30SM would have been a much better fit, and the BMD-4M absolutely should be a TT vehicle. I would be fine with them adding a premium version AND a TT version (like the JA37Di), but not just a premium version.

The only thing that can save the Su-33 is if Gaijin gives it the R-27EA, but that’s a BIG ask for them. The R-27EA is not exactly well documented, and it certainly exists much more on paper than anywhere else. Not to mention there would definitely be outcries for the AIM-120C-5 (and by extension the R-77-1 as well) to counter it.

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Honestly people say that about every new weapon release. Make top tier fly the EC operation maps 24/7 and let the meteors fly

Typhoon isnt coming with next gen missiles
120s and AIM9Li

Meteor doesnt lose energy and IRIS-T is the most advanced IR missile in the world

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This could be too much, causing more chaos than Iran F-14.

yeah, I read it wrong

Yeah, it’s also more of a paper design than anything. It would require the AIM-120C-5 to counter it for sure.

You really want UV IRCCM LOAL over the shoulder IR missles? And a BVRAAM that has a no escape zone of 60km? The size of most maps?

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Just having EC maps don’t suddenly change what IRIS-T and Meteor are. They are fundamentally different to every previous jump of missile system in game and should not be expected anytime soon.

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My Conspiracy Theory is Gaijin is gonna say, Oh yeah, guys we found these Documents that say the Su-33 was modernized and could take the R77/77-1 trust us. Do we think that Gaijin honestly thinks the 33 is on the same level as these other fox 3 fighters??? I think they are gonna pull a fast one if the 33 is going to be RUs new top aircraft.

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I mean, the first Typhoons were physically unable to taking Meteor, so thats all but guaranteed, IRIS-T is really unlikely too because well, its gonna dominate top tier unless put at minimum 14.3 on the typhoon

Mornin Smin enjoy sifting through the chaos :)

I don’t want to get into a pissing contest about this so I’ll put it in spoilers:

Spoiler

You stated that F-2 was only a sidegrade to the F-15J(M) and suffered the same issues as PD radars.

Now you claim that AESA radar is too strong and the F-2 is superior to the F-15J(M) and Typhoon/Rafale.

Now if you feel like I’m attacking you as a person, I apologize, that is not the intent. I’m merely trying to have a discussion with you but it’s frustrating when the goalposts keep moving.

If we aren’t in agreement, then we can drop it and stop replying to each other. I do not want to argue with you.

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To be honest R-27EA would only change stuff if it had well configured loft behaviour. Energy alone is useless without the ability to bank that energy.

Meteors are completely different. It’s one of the best ARH’s irl.

200km range. 60km NEZ. (That means, anyone you launch at within 60km, will die).

This is the sort of missile you give to Typhoon when things like F-22 / F-35 etc are in the game.

I’m curious with all these PESA radars (and one AESA) if F-18E is also on the cards

The Super Hornet would be BUSTED like WAY too good for now

The Super Hornet definitely can come, but I wouldn’t expect it this patch due to us not even having the A or C yet.

Maybe the earliest I would expect is like Summer 2025? But even then that may be early.

I have no knowledge of what it does better than the F-18C aside from it having AESA radar lol

When I stated counter-flaws, I was talking about notching and potentially chaff. I also lack knowledge on the filtering techniques that are either specific or universal to AESA radars, hence the word “likely” was used as it’s possible filtering techniques could make notching improbable.
Typhoon AESA was my comparison back then, I clearly forgot to specify that then for which I apologize.

I hope those two statements helped clarify my older statements, and I hope it makes you understand that my stance hasn’t changed.
I just forgot details that to me I was clearly thinking about but forgot to type in.

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