Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 1)

I guess I’ll throw my hat into the ring

If it’s not the Soviet Omaha Class Murmansk, my bet is the Soviet Cruiser Petropavlovsk/Tallinn ex-German Admiral-Hipper Class Lützow

Short Recap:

The Lützow, an Admiral-Hipper Class cruiser, was sold to the Soviets by Germany in 1940 while still incomplete. Renamed Petropavlovsk, she was partially outfitted with her 38cm guns and used in the defense of Leningrad during World War II. Though only ~70% complete, she fired over 700 rounds before being disabled, eventually being repaired and renamed to Tallinn before finally serving as a training ship until the mid-1950s.




More Guesses:

Another amazing guess is Ex-US Omaha Class Milwaukee in Soviet Service, the Murmansk. This ship was leaked by an extremely reliable source (Olivia) last year and is a good option sitting at Rank III and 5.0

Another good guess thrown out there by @Apollo_1641 was the Admiral Makarov, or Nurenberg, this Leipzig Class Cruiser for Germany is already in-game at Rank IV and 5.3.

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Why I Guessed It:

Because “Soviet” is in quotations, it’s more than likely a non-Soviet ship brought into Soviet service, so that lays out a few options. Due to the Omaha Class, Admiral Hipper Class, and Leipzig Class already being in-game at Rank III and IV especially, would be relatively simple to add. However the Murmansk seems more likely with the Battle Pass being reduced in size to Rank III Ships/Boats, and this was also suggested by some others here already. I suggest this purely due to the Soviet Rank IV Cruiser Voroshilov (Season III Battle Pass) existing (also at 5.7), so I wanted to throw this out there as an option.

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Northern Territory?

I don’t understand Gaijin’s decisions removing packs before 1 year old or newer packs to replace the older one. for example Saudi’s EEL.

Probably Either another Kirov class or Chapayev.

But how would those be “Soviet” as the clue says. There’s no ambiguity or uncertainty with the Kirov or Chapayev, unless, that is, it’s flying a non-Soviet nation’s flag…

(Did that ever happen?)

Dude I was just messing around, no need to take my post seriously.

There 's the Sverdlov-class, KRI Irian operated by Indonesia. But the other members of that class are too high in Rank to be likely candidates for a BP prize, and it going to the USSR tree doesn’t fit well w/ the other rumours we’ve been seeing regarding ASEAN.

So it probably won’t be that, it 's just a neat historical note. Soviet heavy cruiser operated by another nation.

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Petropavlovsk/Tallinn was never completed and is obviously in too poor a state to be viable in War Thunder.

If it’s going to be a seized german cruiser, I think Nürnberg (renamed Admiral Makarov) is more likely

Admiral Makarov

Queensland.

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Nice

sorry smin but we practically have israel in game for more than 2 years now and we are still without a proper top tier SPAA and there is options for that, you can add the HVSD/ADAMS with the Barak-1 missile 45G TVC, 12km of range and the CIWS turret with the Phalanx system, that SPAA could be added, the SPYDER have several versions of it, Spyder-SR, MR, LR, ER, Spyder AIO, you can start with the Spyder-SR if you want it could be added just with the IR missiles, just with Python-5 the ground launched Python-5 have between 12 to 15km of range and the I-Derby that have 40km of range ground launched could be added in the future like the ARH missile version of the Type 81C japanese SPAA that you added long time ago in simple terms the Spyder-SR (just with the Python-5) would be a better Type-81C and now with 12.0 in ground i cannot see anyproblem to not add it, we have nothing to counter the russian CAS and its longer range air to ground missiles, what we can do with the chaparral in top tier? NOTHING, just sit there and wait for the KH-38/KH-29TD launched from 15km+ to destroy your ass, am not asking for a 1 to 1 counterpart to the pantsir but atleast for something that could make the people think twice what they are gonna do.

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I do agree about the never-completed part, just that there is plenty of stuff in Naval that’s much more poor of state or incomplete than the Petropavalovsk that Gaijin has already added.

List of Incomplete/Paper Ships
  • RN Conte di Cavour for Italy
    • The Conte di Cavour Class Dreadnaughts were finished and had an extensive service life, however, the 1943/44 refit in-game never was completed
  • RN Comandante Margottini for Italy
    • The Comandanti Medaglie d’Oro Class Destroyers had a few around 20% completion
  • RN Etna for Italy
    • The Etna Class Cruisers only had one around 50% completed
  • Project 69 Kronshtadt for Russia
    • The Kronshtadt Class Battlecruisers only had the hull around 10-15% complete
  • Shcherbakov for Russia
    • The Project 68Bis-ZIF Class Cruisers were laid down and launched, although were never completed before the project was canceled
  • Z46 for Germany
  • Z47 for Germany
    • The Type 1936C Class Destroyers never really got far before being canceled, then both Z46 and Z47 were finally destroyed by Allied bombing raids

Not trying to say if it’s good or bad, just trying to lay down what Gaijin’s stance on all this seems to be. As long as it is partially constructed or laid down with a bit of dedicated construction, it can be added. A lot of these options in-game have significantly less completion or service life than the Petropavalovsk as well.

Honestly, I didn’t even think of the Nurenberg, that does seem like another solid choice. I still think the Petropavalovsk or Admiral Makarov is unlikely due to Rank IV being off the table for a long time now with it more than likely being the Murmansk (if it’s not something out of left field). However, a Rank IV ship would be nice to see to make the Battle Pass a bit more valuable now that its only two vehicles, and I hope it is something of that caliber.

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That’s so weird to see “project” near this ship’s name btw, I would sacrifice new AA just to change it into proper year lol

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Its sad seeing only italy, russia and germany having paper ships, i would love for the minotaur class, while the ships themselves were never laid down the turrets were built and then reused on the tiger class light cruisers

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There’s plenty to add for sure.

Well, we may see some very soon. Since tier VI ships for all nations were supposed to come the previous patch and this one, we may expect the Italian Francesco Caracciolo and maybe even the French Normandie class, if the Dunkerque was not chosen.

UK didn’t have any either last patch so it may get something.

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Hopefully a ww2 refit of a bb finally since we are the only nation with out one, im hoping for QE or Warspite, or KGV since at this point we could get her

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They’re clearly not comfortable handing out the main WW2 stuff just yet ( that’s why the whole Scharnhorst situation is annoying), It’s certainly much more likely that it’ll be a QE class, especially after the Barham.

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this is so depressing, tbh I would have taken it at 12.0 if it got its 5 second reload back, tbh im confused on how gaijin decided on pushing the Aritetes up in br by buffing them but not the same with the 3TD especially with it being the end of the line tank

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chall 3 is worse than BK, only has the advantages of DM53, however, it does not have a deflagration pressure relief valve like leo2, poor protection, will lead to a very poor survival rate, I think… chall3 should swap positions with BK and place it in front of BK/2E at 11.7, while increasing the power of BK/2E to match 12.0 power, which makes a lot more sense

and how would you do that? out side of decreasing their reload you cant really change much about them