Yeah i can see that, but tbf if a team has say 2 pantsirs and you have to waste 5 missiles on each assuming you evwn live long enough to fire five, and then assuming they die. You only have 2 to 8 missiles left posibly none if they make you take the pod on the belly
Don’t get me exited like that
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true, though the other way of looking at is that you have just successfully countered and defeated 2x SPAA that most aircraft can barely survive fighting 1, let alone take out and still have maybe up to 8 missiles to then fire off at other ground targets which may or may not be 1 kill each. Heck, you dont even necessarily need to fire all 5 at the pantsir, just overwhelm it so that it cant intercept all. Fire 3 off at each Pantsir and then fire off the other 12 or so at various targets. Would never stop them all.
I fully get the concern people have for them, Though the GR4 does certainly mitigate that a fair bit.
Idk i just think that each pantsir has 12 missiles, a plane with 12 wont make much of a dent if thry have to waste most of them to kill a single spaa, that can then use the dumb back up token thing they added and come back for like 120sp to revenge kill you
When I read “Vanguard”, I was hoping for the Vanguard-Class Battleship, even though I don’t have U.K yet, hahahah.
Because it would be a good addition for U.K and also signify, finally, the step into fast Battleships.
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You can, at most guide 4 Pantsir missiles at once, I dont think you can reliably intercept more than 3 at a time though. If you were also dropping some flares as well (and I would hope that the Gr4 would have more than just 56 flares, as it should also have 320 BOL) to mess up the IRST and you were dropping a load of chaff to mess up the radar and you fired off a load of Brimstones from long range (assuming the Brimstones would let you fire from 20km and you had something like sniper for reliable long range acquistion)
(Also with the current datamines and stuff, maybe also firing off 2x ALARM at the same time)
I think you could fairly reliably surpress a Pantsir, but the biggest unknown is how gaijin would model the longer range performance, if its barely 12km like AGM-65s are quite often, then yes, you would be rather screwed.
A part of me really wants vanguard because of its “modern” secondary armament (8x 5.25 inch guns per side) and powerful AA as well as being decently quick and mobile as well as hopefully having the supercharged shells. But another part of me really wants something other than the same 8x 15" (6 in the case of the renown) loadout we have on all our 7.0s at the moment :D
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Idk ivee also seen pantsirs shoot down all 8 hellfires from an apache at 5km before, they can most certainly shoot down 5 at quadruple the range
You can all 4 as long as you do not throw your mouse around while guiding the 4th one
Not to mention if they get close enough you can use the guns that are decently reliable for shooting down missiles
super rare, now that it’s gotten even later I doubt it
unless I’ve missed sth
Indeed, i was on the reciving end of getting my things gunned.
I wasnt sure how reliable the manual aim was for hitting something so small, so I guess its down to how good your aim is then :D
Missile auto mode, keep it in the middle of the lock. Done
The radar drift is non existant, so you do not need to correct it mid way.
Hongdu K-8 “Karakorum” from PAF. my guess
Good AAM but unguided bomb & rocket and max speed slower AIDC AT-3
Not bad attack aircraft 10.7, and good IR AAM but no precision-guided munition
Chinese export lead-in fighter trainer/light attack aircraft and light combat aircraft model
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FTC-2000 : very good IR missile and Guizhou Liyang - WP-13F (C) afterburner engine but no guided medium-range Air-to-Air Missile
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FTC-2000G : Guizhou Liyang WP-13 engine, max speed can be reached is 1,470 km/ h (1.2 Mach), KLJ-7 airborne pulse doppler fire control radar or LKF-601E AESA radar, PL-5DE & PL-9C short-range missile, SD-10A medium-range missile and guided Air-to-Ground like JF-17A
To heavyweight fighter aircraft line like Shenyang J-11
Domestic engine, avionics and armament
J-11B Blk.2 not advanced but better J-11A
We’ll see. I’m good playing stuff already there anyways.
Also you mention ALARM theree is no guarantee we get them, we never got any kind of JDAM im sure gaijin wont be past leaving us out of ARAD missiles. And even then pantsirs can just use the IRST to lock and shoot at you
ARMs are band based, most do not even consider K while looking for targets.
Yeah… That is true. But it at least forces it to keep the radar off and creates 2 additional targests they will try to expend missile on to intercept
Oh god dammit. That damn K band radar.