Unless Gaijin confirms Spain as Italy third lol
Spain can count under minor Axis, as despite not joining the war, they were effectively a member.
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If italy gets spain they get a ton of stuff, Gripen E, new centauro, and a leo 2a7 iirc not familiar with their less modern stuff outside the cool little M8 modifications
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Spanish Gripen Es ?
Italy already has the Spanish Centauro.
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Tbh Italy could of gotten Spain and Portugal the same way as France got the Benelux
They have the Cent 2 also
My bad, im thinking brazil, though its not unlikely Italy would get Brazil
Hopefully some cold war stuff
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Early versions of the Typhoon already qualify for the Gen 4+ moniker and the recent J-10A was noted by Gaijin themselves as being Gen 4+ as well. Not sure about the Rafale, but the early F-2 could also be argued as Gen 4+ as even with AESA it has some limitations compared to traditional PD radar sets.
Possibly, but you never know with Gaijin. It’s an interesting situation to be in where Gen 4.5 also has an early/mid/late distinction and most other nations I believe have more Gen 4.5s than say the US?
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Upgraded 15C and strike eagles could count as 4.5 gen, the block 70 vipers also, and there is also the whole advanced eagle series that belong in US tree.
There are lots of 4.5 gen for US so it isn’t much of an issue
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It’s more that other nations have unique 4.5 gen airframes (EFT, Rafale), while the US mostly upgraded its 4th gen hardware to that standard.
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US skipped that step lol
Funny enough, the B2 is older than the j10a, gripen c, su27sm, j11a, and about the same age as the f16c and f4f ice, Japanese and Israeli f15. The f117 is older than every current top tier aircraft in game.
Super Hornet/Growler is about the only new airframe i can think of.
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True, there are Gen 4 upgrades to Gen 4.5.
Brazil has a lot of interesting vehicles, but it will probably go to Latin America TT or some joint TT with Spain and Portugal.
Spain can still go to Italy, but looking at how Gaijin just copypasted multiple Soviet vehicles used by Hungary, I doubt they have anything like this in mind. Maybe if using mostly unique vehicles from all subnations it would fit, but now I doubt we will get anything apart from Hungary and Romania (which is still in some shit position compared to Hungary considering we aren’t getting almost anything from them apart from 1 old SM.79B, few premiums and some skins) at least in the nearest future.
I just hope that if we dont get Typhoon. We get something more “advanced”. Would suck to get nothing but lower BR fillers for next year or 2 whilst US and USSR get back to back top tier fighters again. (there are certainly a few I want but not THAT many) It sucked watching that happen between 2019 and 2024.
Though that could be something like the Tornado Gr4 or Harrier Gr9A though (heck even the CF-18 could be an option there)
The Tornado Gr.4 for Britain, ASSTA3 for Germany, and a later variant of some kind for Italy if there is one, would be nice. They could also be used as the first aircraft with IRIS-Ts and ASRAAMs to test how they’d perform in game.
Yep
Yep. Im of a similar opinion. Though I could see them coming first and those missile a little later. I think we are ready for the airframes but not quite ready for ASRAAMs and IRIS-Ts. But yes, No other airframe has the right combination of limiations for them.
The only questions that remain is
What the other nations?
0 chance those these 3 nations would get them first and alone.
And
What would something like ASRAAM look like in game?
Basically I’m thinking an AMRAAM with the pull of a magic II, shorter range and an Aim-9M seeker. Im really doubting it would have anywhere near IRL performance for a long time