harrier T was the inspiration
Game doesn’t cater to only you unfortunatly :(
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they were all prototypes in the 90s, the same with the KF-51, if we see most of the programs they are keeping the 120mm and 125mm,
But it was Fr#nch :P
It doesnt count
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So… County-Class Destroyer when?
But I do agree they should delete ground, those tanks are rather boring usually
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Does it mean that there might be some coastal French boat this major? Or are you counting Glaive as part of the update? Because in the Jean Bart discussion you mentioned it will be the only French vessel. And now you are saying the only bluewater French ship.
In my case, when it comes specifically to vehicles, I am only interested in;
-Top Tier MBTs (the most)
-Top Tier SAMs
-Top Tier Jet Fighters (lesser degree)
-Top Tier Battleships (even smaller degree)
-Maybe good, solid mid/late-WW2 Medium/Heavy tank
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isnt glavie event already started?
I never said that the T-series are bad, just that the M1A2s are considerably better.
In fact the T-series are still alright.
Top tier US ground teams mostly lose due to Russian CAS being oppressive.
Alright then, I will now proceed to blame everything on you >:)
With all due respect, I’ve seen way more people with double KDs on T-80BVMs and T-90Ms than people doubling their KDs in M1A2s.
US teams have been losing nearly the same way since 2021 without the Kh-38 (or even Kh-29s) even in the game.
Because the average Abrams player is just diabolically bad and are using a tank with a high skill floor?
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I mentioned this, but basically:
Abrams; high ceiling, BUT high floor
Russia: low ceiling, BUT low floor too
This means that, while the best players may achieve better results with the Abrams by overcoming its weaknesses and exploiting its advantages, the vast majority of players will have an easier time doing generally better with Russian tanks instead.
In technical terms, I believe they are pretty much perfectly balanced in an asymmetrical way. But in practical terms, the ceiling/floor matter makes the Russian tanks just be more effective.
Basically; the Abrams is better under 30% of the playerbase, while the Russian tanks are better under 70% of the playerbase, give or take. This makes Russian tanks statistically more effective despite technically not having as much potential.
A tank with a high skill floor is an overall mediocre tank for all intents and purposes.
the Ariete is a mediocre tank series with an even higher skill floor than Abrams, and it still has nearly the same WR.
Just because twenty counted dudes on this forum manage to make the Abrams work doesn’t mean that the only answer is skill issue. That is just neglecting the whole picture.
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Except the Ariete doesn’t have that high of a skill ceiling.
The Abrams is a tank that can absolutely change games in the correct hands. Meanwhile the T-90M is only good for sniping (if you get in close with a T-90M it’s generally a free kill unless you skill issue) and the BVM relies on yolo rushing and hoping the enemy is bad.
EDIT: meant skill ceiling in the first sentence, idk why I typed floor.
Precisely. The Ariete maintains the point except also taken to the extreme;
Sure, a skilled player WILL manage to outperform any Russian tank on an Ariete thanks to the higher ceiling; but the vast majority of the players will just do much better much more easily on a T-80BVM instead.
Therefore… would people claim that Ariete is better than T-80BVM just because the very best players can do better on it? Or would it make more sense to state that T/80BVM is better given the fact that the majority of players just can do much better much more easily?
Correct, it has just 1 Issue thats the 1 Weakspot it has, the entire Tank
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It has the same reload and basically the same pen as an Abrams, only lacking armor and chunks of mobility. By your definitions, that’s more than enough to blame skill issue on them if they don’t manage to overcome Russian MBTs and CAS, while having SAMP/Ts and EFs (and I’m not even accounting the 2A7HU).
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These four words are what destroys any argument in my opinion.
Vehicle capabilities should be judged strictly and explicitly independently from the players that may operate them; and if you still want to bring players into the equation, then it should be the average player as a unified baseline standard, not “the correct hands” of a theorically top performing player.
Otherwise we can extend the argument to;
Abrams is the best in the correct hands.
Ariete AMV is the best in the correct hands.
Ariete PSO is the best in the correct hands.
Actually, an M22 played by the Top player in history can be the best in the correct hands.
Etc.
Of course an Ariete PSO played by a Top player will do better than the average Joe in a T-80BVM; that doesn’t make Ariete PSO better than T-80BVM.
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