Probably gonna happen lol
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They def should add Tu22 Hypersonic bomber, it would be nice, 9Ton bombs (at least in papper that plane carries bombs of 9000kg) super sonic speed and more balanced vs the planes that America has for bombing, ussr / russia has less equipment in their bombers
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The only bias I need is this vehicle, idk maybe 14.0 for ground RB given it might be too strong
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I don’t know F-4C from USA tech tree might be early service (1963 ~ 1964) or mid production (1966 ~ 1967) equipment
But stay to early rank VII
The USA aviation tech tree missing other USAF F-4 around 10.3-11.0
Add both early (1968-1969) and late (mid 1970’s & Air National Guard config) production
Allow me to question the usefulness of an R530E at 12.0
Like, it’s great at 10.0, but if it still is at 12.0 the average player’s skill at that br is much worse than I thought
well going off of (its a quick google search it may or may not be wrong) the AIM-9E, the better of the 2 IR missiles the F-4C gets in game, entered US service in roughly late 1968 early 1969, so definitely a mid production, late would end up giving it AIM-9Ls and stuff like that
I don’t think anybody gave enough F on F-4C to discuss its configuration till this day. It is a F-104C with better missiles at a higher BR. That can do CAS.
Dead weight RF missiles, no CMs, it is easily a Rank VI material.
Anything that might make F-4C cool should be implemented in F-4D. AIM-7Es, CMs etc.
And just like any other US complex jet (3rd gen and above), F-4E is a mixed frankestein with a mid production block upgraded with some of the modifications but cannot use targeting pods or AIM-7Fs
Weapon systems are matter of balance, hence why F4E sits lower than its counterparts.
Gaijin could add late version of F4E that has access to AGM65-D,Paveway Targeting pod and Aim-9L+Aim-7F combo but they are too lazy to model it.
the F-4D would be more of a bridge the gap between the F-4E and the F-4C, if this were to happen my thoughts on it would be this
F-4C AIM-9Bs, AIM-9Es, AIM-7Cs, AIM-7Ds (basically how it is now)
F-4D AIM-9Es, AIM-9Js, AIM-7Es, AIM-7E-2s, Paveway 1s, pave spike pod, and other bombs and such from the F-4C
F-4E AIM-9J, AIM-9L, AIM-7E-2, AIM-7F/AIM-7M, TIESO/Pave spike targeting pod/camera, and the other standard ordnance options
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they could copy paist the airframe model from the kurnass 2000, as the only difference between them would be cockpit (gaijin dosen’t care enough F-4Es still use F-4C cockpits), and weapon selection (Kurnass 2000 dosen’t have sparrows)
and the prodcution number they claim it to be is also wrong as it has the AGM-65Bs and GBU-8s and GBU-1/5s which were after the DMAS upgrade not before, without it, it would just be a better C without any ground ordnance upgrades, and they know this, with the SEAD event loadout options give us what the F-4E they claim it to be would have
F4E cockpit is actually sits ingame for a while.
In game F4F ICE uses the same cockpit that F4E has in real life , Gaijin could just swap the already existing cockpits but like I said they are too lazy to do anything when it comes Phantoms on these days.
the only Late Phantoms we have in game are F4F KWS, F4EJ KAI and Kurnass 2000
all other are early or mid configuration of their type, even F4J and F4S
most are Butcherd Mixed versions with Cherrypicked features and armaments
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Hopefully Greece will bring their Peace Icarus F-4
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with AiM-9M and AiM-120B/C-5 at 13.3
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This is the main excitement for the greece subtree,
I do hope israel gets the Greece F-5A too, just since they are missing a nimble fighter at 10.7 and (as much as its copy paste) would be nice. The F-5B is an option too, and could carry the 30mm GPU-5 gunpod (no internal cannons) so its weight increase could make it a fun option for a 10.3 freedom fighter
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Yeah the F-4 cockpits are in some state. Even when they do get fixes they actually don’t work like from back in Storm Warning all the “late modifications” were meant to get their radar target lock boxes for their HUDs but it never happened even when it was said in the final changelog to have been added.
Report was made but like 90% of cockpit reports nothing happens with it. F-4 “Late Modifications” missing radar target lock box
Also should have been added for the J35XS too as it’s also mentioned in the changelog but it still hasn’t.
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I hope Greece will implented as Greece and not full C&P.
Not that Greece has them, but i’m tired of Leopard 2a4’s, spitfires, mirages, shermans, any Russian T series, F-5 aircraft (jeez, so much of these… its so encredibly annoying) and M60’s.
Also, when are we finally getting my suggested discounts for the same vehicles… like for real… 5 times grinding the same F-5 with slight differences for 200-300K RP is just frustrating.
Hence i’m playing the game less and less, it just doesnt feel rewarding anymore. Not only the maps stay the same, even the vehicles stay the same.
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Day 1164 of waiting for Polish tech tree
A meme cus why not
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