Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

We now have 2 vehicles with PESA Radar, Tor M1 and Pantcir S1, and it’s broken.

I think the entire subtree was made by someone else outside of gaijoobles as a hobby. Thats why its weird.

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And later the Su 30 lol kinda make sense if Smin teases another aircraft lol

It’s an aircraft. So it’s part of the air tree.

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It’s part of the helicopter tree, not the air tree.

We have already seen imaginary soviet tech.
Cross reference the combat video footage of Vikhrs with how they perform in game now. It’s absolutely comical Russia claim it as a multipurpose missile which can hit aircraft. It can barely hit moving tanks.

Yeah, except GJN puts helicopters under aviation, because generally helicopters fly around.

They also put UCAVs there, but they aren’t in the air trees, either.

Any RP you gain in a UAV goes to your plane research, so that’s perhaps the worst counter-example you could have given.

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And they’re not in the air trees.

they seem to perform well in the combat footage, ukraine has lots of loses due to them…

In game it will hunt down a manoeuvring F-16 and kill it with proxy. In Ukraine you can see a video of them aiming at a moving light tank (bradley I think) and missing it and hitting a stationary tank next to it (ironically blowing up a leopard 2).

I’m not saying it’s an awful ATGM. But there is zero chance one of those missiles is taking out an F-16 in real life.

well i have seen videos where they score hits direct hits on moving targets, there are plenty of footage of them in use, just saw a video of a claimed bradley being destroyed while on the move and the autotracker could follow it through a even with trees partially blocking it, not to mention that operator error can still play a role, aside from that, that they are limited to 10 g in war thunder so if it hits an f16 withing the g limit seem fine enough, other missile in game can also track planes pretty well as well, btw a f16 irl whould have blown up the heli before it even before the ka have even the range to target it

What do helicopters do?

I think ANZAC is fine actually.

It doesn’t matter what they do; they aren’t in the air trees; they are in the helicopter trees.

Tbh that doesnt count as a sub tree cause its a singular premium, that’s like saying Italy has a turkish air sub-tree cause of the T129 ATAK
Sub-tree would be more like the Finnish line in Sweden

It is probable they used the AIM-9L(i) however. I have seen some documents stating they were at least interested in it and it would have been compatible. Much like all European aircraft should get the L(i) and not the M, even though their performance in game would be essentially identical as far as the game would not model their differences.

I think every country should be rearranged to have a subtree.

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That’s a vapid idea.

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