The ramifications are huge.
J-11 is Fox-3 capable from the outset. That means that if gaijin intends to match the Su-27 to the J-11 for capabilities, we should be getting an Su-27SM.
Alternatively possible is that the J-11 and Su-27 do not get Fox-3’s, as smin warned us there was no guaranteed deployment of Fox-3’s all in one patch, and both the J-11 and Su-27SM (or just Su-27) get ER’s and ET’s.
Let’s be honest here. AMRAAM won’t change the game all that much since everyone hugs the dirt as it is lol
I will personally Czechoslovakia just because I’m Czech, because we’ll have Leo 2A8 by 2030. As I said earlier, only viable new Top Tier nation would be South Korea and maybe Poland which might be part of Czechoslovakia or vice versa. Other than that, new nations would be just satisfaction for nacionalist part of our community and their wishes for every single nation on the Earth
I think there will be a baguette break here. :D :D :D :D
Correct me if I’m wrong, but they never specified in the original list, what variants we are getting for either the Su-27, F-15, and J-11. All are simple left for us to guess in the original right?
I believe the very first J-11’s are still copy’s of the Su-27SK tho, so not necessarily Fox-3 to my understanding
And people wonder why no one plays France…
Just give French derived vehicles and exports to everyone else, so no one plays France because they already have our technology.
A self repeating cycle everyone is to selfish to try and stop. Meanwhile German technology is in other tech trees? Oh, the horror. Make it stop!
Leopard 2A8 is also available for Italy and Norway, as well as for Germany. For Hungary, if everything goes well, KF-51 Panther, Leopard 2a4 (12 rebuilt, I don’t know what version it will be…) Leopard 2 A7+ and KF-41Lynx 120mm light tank. KF-41 IFV and Hirton 8x8 APC…
France has a very interesting technique, I played with the nation, I got AMX-30B, one of the most unique vehicle trees, but you shouldn’t print it full of copy paste… M26 was not needed at all…
And at the same time Gaijin don’t fill the real gap of light vehicle in the french TT with unique french vehicle
Dunno.
For now it doesn’t matter especially if we don’t get F-4F ICE this update.
9Ms would also set it apart from AJ.
AAM-4, Japan’s AMRAAM C equivalent, will be interesting in the future tho.
M8 with respects not every foreign German vehicle needs to be in Germany
To be fair, german equipment is in way more nations then french ones
Personally I don’t care about single vehicles at all, since the only interesting thing about 2M RP Leopard 2A8 (RP amount needed to get it) would be just Czech flag on it, otherwise it would be just overpriced Top Tier MBT like any other which requires sh*t ton of mental breakdowns to be capable vehicle
Gajins words with the KF41 it was never in service im australia either just testery and unused export variants do go in to the developer country, it has quite a few differences as well, sight on the left and iron dome aps as example ,or however that system was called
If a Swiss hunter goes into Germany then a Australian KF 41 could go to Britain
The Swiss hunter actually exists tho
Yeah. I really need to tear apart my sources. I really wish there was a good book on either the N-001 or the R-77. From what I’ve gathered, that is clear, a new radar has to be installed to aim the R-77’s, the development of which was limited at the time of the fall with less than 200 missiles produced by 1991. Most of them were in Ukraine, where production and development originated, and it took some aggressive work to get the Russian R-77 project back up off the ground.
This basically places the R-77 at the late 90’s early 2000’s mark. By which Shenyang was assembling J-11 kits entirely unassisted. So I misspoke, the J-11 does not imply that it carries Fox-3 from the beginning. It would seem to me then that Su-27SM, or honestly, more likely, for name and similarity, the Su-30M and Su-30MKK are likely going to be the first R-77 carriers from the Flanker family.
If I were a betting man, I bet the Yak-141 and SMT get R-77’s, while the flankers just get 10 pylons of fun and competitive balance. With Su-30M, MKK, and F-15C coming in a patch sometime next year when they’re ready to make another leap. For the Chinese I’m wondering if that means PL-12 for the J-8F in the meantime.
Don’t start, you’ll break the baguette and start eating snails. Joking aside, the French tree still makes more sense than the Chinese tree. Not to mention Israel. Subtree USA would have been great.
Besides that britain actualy has theiir own hunter versions in the tree already as well