If the J10A is seen as too much, even though it isn’t, the Jf17/FC1 is also an option
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True, tho personally I wouldn’t expect too see those until we see something like an official Pakistani Sub tree for China
VL-4 is in the files :P though I would see a Pakistani sub tree for china although NK would make more sense.
Second thoughts Pakistan has a right too : D
I think you mean VT-4? Also they will probably just do what they did with the MBT-2000 and just make it the Chinese Export model rather than a specific national variant. Personally I hope the VT-4 we get in game is the one shown at an arms show with a hard kill APS.
Pakistan still makes a lot of sense for China tho considering all the Chinese vehicles they use and close ties
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Yea I meant the VT-4 and plus the F-16 would make good gap fillers too. I don’t know much about there WW2 era vehicles though.
@soviet_MoonMan I’ve just realised you can make a 4 vehicle line up with Pakistan skins from the market place at BR 10 well three. : 0
Yeah at this point we already have quite a few vehicles used by Pakistan in game, most in China, so i pretty confident it’s a matter of when, not if, we get a Pakistani Sub tree. One of the most interesting vehicles they can offer is a Ukrainan T-80UD with a T-84 transmission
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Oh that will be interesting
It’s realistic but it also makes me skeptical for a December update. US only getting an A-10C, sure there’s AIM-120s but that’s not hype unless it comes with a new plane to use it on.
When it comes to Japan, I wouldn’t put it past them to strap the AIM-120s on the EJ Kai to keep it relevant a bit longer (actually don’t know if it could) and maybe even the AJ. However, the XF-2A is right there and it would be maddening for them to just ignore it.
ok so AiM-120A vs R-77 and Mica doesn’t add uo
meteor when? xD
it’s not that bad but like, iirc R-77 and Mica are more around AiM-120Cs in capabilities
but what do I know, my serious knowledge ends with late second to 3rd gen jets
To my knowledge, the MICA has the range, speed, and acceleration of the R-27ER, thrust vectoring, and 50-60g of maneuverability.
120A and R77 are equal youre thinking of R77M and 120C I made the same mistake myself
and @Smugspite it 's this one:
Not even the first time we’ve seen reference to it in WT, textures for her antiaircraft guns were found years ago: ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/phz8fh/28024_28031_changes/ )
It 's interesting to see this ship in Mobile, being an incremental upgrade over a Coastal - WTM has no Coastal fleet at present. Though it’ll probably be more powerful there if missiles get the same 10-12x instant reloads their torpedoes do.
I really do mean " incremental upgrade over a Coastal ", the Hamburg-classe “” destroyer “” has the same DCNS 100mm guns, Mark 35 torpedoes, 375mm rockets, and 10x depth charge rails as the Koln-classe frigate does ingame already.
The main noticeable differences are the 1000t more displacement, ~45 extra crew members, and ofcourse provision for Exocet
Same two twin-launchers as the Albatros-classe Fast Attack Craft use.
It opens the door wide open for the possibility of other larger vessels which trade effective conventional antiship guns and torpedoes for use of missiles - many such ships exist !
Abt the future French fleet, although there is evidence that they will be receiving some in Mobile it does make a certain kind of sense that their earlier carrier vessels( Commadant Teste, Bearn ) wouldn’t be as suited to the environment there as they will be here, given the selection of other carriers we’ve discovered. They’re under-capable in comparision, but that might mean they could appear earlier than those others here in WT.
As for missile ships, I imagine the sticking point here is the fact that French vessels of this kind tend to be considerably more capable than similar German ones. Plus the glacial pace of missile-ship additions overall.
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Oh ? What about that?
But anyway, end of the day, Germany gonna enjoy French Exocet. Disgusting. Not the first time they enjoy French tech before France.
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As a France player getting treated like dog shit is nothing new. So it’s either hope the vehicles for us are fake or cope as everyone else gets fun toys while we sit in a corner and cry.
I’ll probably stop playing for a while again so whatever.
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Did you see that VBCI 2 bushmaster 25 ?
We can have VBCI2 CTA40 with 40mm and F&F missile but no, the 25mm appear. lol.
And nothing for air would be sad too.
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