Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 1)

[_Fleks]

1. This may change
2. India does too, but the problem is where is it?
3. Hm, this is already happening here, haven’t you noticed?

[dotSHINI]

@Deathmisser

A. We can’t have more than 5 lines

can be solved in the future with more pages, or adding the vehicles spread trough the tree

@Deathmisser

B. They got enough to be independent

so those britain , but here we are with them having the whole commonwealth as a sub tree apparantly

@Deathmisser

C. it will literally be adding British stuff to an already mixed nation.

british players ask for leopard 2 SG, sweden has a lot german vehicles, so those italy. I see no problem with germany getting some UK vehicles

[Mahiwew]

@x_Shini

so those britain , but here we are with them having the whole commonwealth as a sub tree apparantly

Gaijin literally stated that there are no plans to integrate India on a wide scale within the British tree and Australia/Canada aren’t sub-trees, thus aren’t formally part of the tree.

[dotSHINI]

doesnt change the fact that Uk has a south african sub tree which it doesnt need in any way or form

[Deathmisser]

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[dotSHINI]

@Deathmisser

Germany doesn’t need the Dutch either

arguably, it does fill holes in the german tech tree. besides i am just showing with this that a nation with a lot vehicles and options still can get a sub tree. This doesnt need to be UK unique

[Admiral_Pieter]

Just saying, The Luftwaffe did operate for example the Fokker D.XXI and Fokker G.1 after the Dutch capitulation. Mainly as trainers if I remember correctly. There may be more types of planes, but I’m not sure.

I’m not using this to say that the Dutch must be added to Germany, just to add some information. I’ll be happy if some of our planes get added at all.

[Mahiwew]

Agreed, giving the UK a sub-tree is one of the greater sins that Gaijin did to any tree, but it does not mean that it is an excuse for other very independently capable nation to get one too.

A few single vehicle additions, fine, but no sub-tree is required for USA, Germany, USSR and France. Arguably China too, but we all know they won’t ever reach a healthy point at any low tier unfortunately

[Smugspite]

mate I wish the whole of the commonwealth was apart of the british tree, but that is just straight up wrong lol, and what gaps does germany have that the dutch would fill exactly?

[Mahiwew]

UK could entirely be self-sufficient is the point.
Adding the ZA sub-tree robbed us of the light vehicles line.

[Smugspite]

for arguably better light vics

[TheRussianVetera]

As a person who has t72b3m, t90a (fully loaded), t-80bvm fully loaded, i can say with full confidence that out of the three tanks, my favourite, and the one i saw the most success with is the t-80bvm, especially with the mango round. Fast reverse, good thermals, good mango round, good overall protection. Gives you a lot more confidence. Only good thing i like about the t-90A is…well i’ll say its the same as the t-72b3m as not much difference in terms of battles other than the t-90 having the infra blockers.

T-80BVM imo definitely superior, but if they do add in the T-90M, they should first add in the T-90MS and then the T-90M, as the T-90M got a lot of the improvements from test trials with the T-90MS.

It would be nice to see the T-72B3M get the 2022/2023 upgrade, same with the T-80BVM.

I guess once the T-90M comes out, only thing that can keep pushing the T-80BVM would be the T-95 series prototypes.

[TheRussianVetera]

im late to the party lmao

[Mahiwew]

It is a waste of one of the interesting and important aspects of British ground developments as well as a waste ZA tree that could work well indepdnently.

Lose-lose whatever way you look at it

[Mytho-GR1]

I guess we found the flagger

[Smugspite]

also tbf compared to other sub trees people suggested the only tank south africa adds that wasn’t domestic or from the UK is the Eland 90, compare that to the dutch that would mainly be british tanks or variants of them, look at hungry that has no italian designs and is mainly soviet and german designs, then look at finland that is again mainly german and soviet with a british tank in there.

[MS_Phantasm]

What even is this message?

“There are personal messages for a reason, which I have no intention of responding to them.”

It seems unhinged and lacking of social grace. You don’t agree to take it elsewhere then immediately talk down on the others you disagree with.

Take it to Off-Topic if you want to keep in public.

[Mahiwew]

That’s very indicative of my complaint that ZA was robbed off an independent tree.

[dotSHINI]

@Mahiwew

A few single vehicle additions, fine

works for me dutch F-16, Apache, but that still is sad for all the other unique belgium and dutch vehicles

[dotSHINI]

@x_Shini

It is mostly for the future, germany only has 2 vehicles left for air (3) if you wanna count F 35, but the Eurofighter is god knows how long away, that leaves the F4F Ice which will be dead on arrival. The airframe just is to old to compete with the new generation fighters and the F16 is fox 3 capable as well

@x_Shini

funny thing but most german players would tell you they would love more reliable missles option like Hellfires, the problem with f&f missles is that 1 single bush makes the missle self destruct, they only are reliably useable on desert maps. The new italien and french helis have the choice to choose the best missles they want depending on the map, while the UHT is useless on 75% of the maps, that is not mentioning the lack of chin turret which makes CAS runs nearly impossible

I literaly answered u that earlier, but you apparently just skipped it