Next Major Update - "Eagle's Shadow" Rumour Roundup & Discussion (Part 2)

Use your IR missiles against them or dogfight them then.

Climb and launch downwards if you want to use radar missiles against them.

That’s just testflight being weird.

We need these mechanics for Toptier to work like it is suppose to, Toptier meta should be BVR not whatever cancer we have right now, with these mechanics next gen fox2s will be balanced.

Not talking about dogfighting.

War Thunder is never going to play like real life combat.

Most people don’t enjoy BVR, you can tell because they still go for furball combat even in top tier.

What are you talking about then?

Definitely opens up a cool wild weasel playstyle where you carry ARMs to kill 2S6/ITOs then cluster bombs for SAM signta, flying low and doing pop up strikes

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Its even worse in matches.

I’ve not had that problem at all against anything except for AI targets

Just normal low altitude fights like 7-15km.

Literally just launch radar missiles downward, if the enemy is multipathing.

I’ve been doing that all day with the F-20A and most missiles hit, no matter how deep the enemy is flying.

If that will even be a thing. This could really mean anything, with my personal guesses being:

  • Some information is wrong. It’s really hard to fact-check Boeing insider information, so there is a chance things are getting mixed up here. I already got this info from someone who claimed this was from a friend at Boeing so that’s at least two times where things could’ve gotten mixed up in communication alone.

  • F-15JSI is purely an upgrade, but includes major structural changes similar to the F-15SR that got new forward fuselage and wings. These would not be as simple to make for Boeing either, since they would need to be structured around the F-15C rather than the F-15E, needing changes in the production lines and causing the delay. If this is true then for the initial 20 aircraft planned to be made by MHI these changes would be cut, which could potentially even mean that they could still be cut entirely.

  • F-15JSI was planned as a Mitsubishi upgrade for F-15J, but in addition to that, since not all F-15J would be fit for such an upgrade, older aircraft would be phased out and replaced entirely by Boeing built F-15JSI. These could be different, maybe closer to the EX to streamline production, but also the delays could’ve been caused by the need to “downgrade” production back to the F-15C based structure.

Could be any of these, I sorted them from most to least likely, we’ll see if any of them was right when the time comes.

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Missile seeker performance has killed my enjoyment of fox 3 combat atm, it feels like some times you have to baby the missile a ton to guarantee kills, while other times a horrible launch will connect erroneously.

Noticed this more with the hyper maneuverable missiles like MICA and R-77-1 over something like a PL-12 or AMRAAM, but all fox 3s feel less scary than they used to imo, depsite FM buffs

Once an ef2000 notched my aim120c5 from 7km altitude 7km i was going mach 2 he was coming straight at me at mach 1.

rudder wobble go brrr

also its a eurofighter, why so surprised :p

Downwards into the earth?

The what

Nah top down launches are easily the most consistent

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Finally! Someone is not stuck in 2024.

I only have access to Phoenixes/Fakours, AIM-120A/Bs and Derbys, so I can’t talk about the ones you mentioned, but unless I’m using Fakours, I’m always baby-sitting my missiles.

TWS launches have never worked for me, but I also don’t have any of the top tier BVR missiles.

For ranges below 20km, I have little to no issues with ARHs and usually only the classic SARH issues of missiles just going wherever they want instead of going for the target.

Also PL-15 has better seeker than MICA in files, so… fun times ahead :D

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China numba wun soon enough
Just need to grind my J-16 out before the hordes of F-15EXs make it impossible to stock grind

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