I have learned and used and still use it some times, fact Gaijin never fixed it it’s awesome, but I think it has something to do with vehicle render, maybe not but that’s my bet. Personally I think Sweden is getting the same threatment as Russia and China as you said, some nations that need a bit of attention is France and Israel in my honest opinion, Italy and Japan is already offering what they had to offer, now only rely on sub-tech tree or nations not implemented’s vehicles.
It would go back to BR 8.7, and there are no documents proving it can use them.
There are no Russian vehicles that are over-performing. The fact your post implies NATO is making Russian vehicles sound better than they are… WOW.
i wish chinese vehicles were overperforming 😔
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I agree with op, scouts are small and hard to hit and what’s the benefit of having top low /mid level aa? Think they should throw them a bone and give the proxy belt back .
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sure buddy
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- Strf 9040 BILL got its launcher up/down aim removed for no valid reason and the real-world model showing hydraulics to move it up/down in addition to the folding in/out parts.
- All CV 9040 based vehicles lack its FCU being able to lock airplanes.
- VEAK 40 lost its proxy fuse ammo despite Sweden using it on all of its 40mm since late WWII. Such as Bofors L/70 and after.
- Strv 121/122 incorrect barrel depression limiters making the barrel go up way too soon when looking toward the side-rear.
- CV 90 Mk IV, the SPIKE LR2 missiles have horrible accuracy issues despite being dead accurate in real life footage.
Don’t get me started on the jets.
So yea, it gets thrown under the bus.
“One of the VAK 40 S 49 was converted into a proof of concept vehicle, designated VEAK 40 X 59 (experimental model 1959) with an integrated radar. It proved successful and lead to the main construction, VEAK 40 X 60, based on the Bofors VK 105 chassis (aka the S-tank/strv 103), which eventually became the VEAK 40 X 62, or just VEAK 4062 for short. A prototype was delived way later than anticipated, with various trials being conducted during the mid to late 60s. The vehicle worked great and was really ahead of its time, not really being surpassed until the Flakpanzer Gepard or even M247 Sergeant roughly 10-20 years later. 40 mm proximity fuze ammuntion for the guns were in development at the Bofors test fire center at the time, which did not enter the open market until 1975.”
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This is incredibly detached from reality.
Sweden as a minor nation can compete with major nations in many BRs, which can’t be said for most other minor nations.
Sweden had the best MBT in top tier for years with 122s, had the best AA with ITO and even Gripen was dominating for months.
Moaning about how Gaijin treats Sweden is ridiculous.
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The main problem is the fact this mechanic only got introduced because there was a bug they didn’t know how to fix.
Now that drone scouting has been solidified, it’s long past time that drones actually got changed so that ground vehicles can interact with them. As it stands, it’s basically just free wallhacks for an entire team, and outside of top tier there are no real ways to shoot down drones. Either:
A: Short battery life, maybe a minute or two.
B: Make drones larger, less agile and slower, to the point that rooftop machine guns can engage them.
C: Swap the model for a quadrotor, meaning that when it’s not actively being controlled it’s just hovering in place, again making it easier for roof MGs to engage.
Beyond anything else, at least fix the drone hitbox. Watching proxy fuse shells and SAMs detonate near the drone and do nothing more than a “hit”, when by all rights the drone should be evaporated by anything more powerful than a hand grenade is just silly.
Also, make drones sent out by tanks who then get killed despawn on their own. Having to deal with phantom blips on the RADAR and dots on the minimap from drones that fly into range of the friendly airfield is just a pointless annoyance.
- affects all leopards, not just sweden
- the strv122s still arguably the best tanks in the game
sweden isnt the only nation with spikes?
i fail to see how its specifically sweden getting thrown under the bus, do you just not play any other nations? sweden isnt getting nerfs more or less than any other nation
also as you say, 40mm proxy fuse entered the market in 1975, the veak was a single prototype from 1964, why would it get proxy?
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Give veak 40 HE-VT will make it to 9.0+, consider M247/PGZ09 is overperforming now, Veak40 will be better because it has AP
Because they were developed concurrently, with one source I’ve heard about even saying that they were tested together, and it’s a nobrainer that if the VEAK had entered serial production, it would have used those rounds.
Gaijin has already set the standard for prototypes with the Yak-141. If it was intended to recieve something, and it could have done with minimal modifications, then it should recieve that in game. The VEAK requires no modifications of any kind to use HEVT, and so it should receive it.
there is no standard, every single time gaijin does something similar it is done differently
can you share these sources?
This is apparently the source. I say apparently as I don’t speak Swedish. Though, to be fair, the person who posted it here clarified it merely states that HEVT was tested at the same range the VEAK was tested at, at the same time. Could have been seperate projects, but it feels wild to me to think that the Swedish armed forces were making a cutting edge SPAA, along with cutting edge ammuntion that’s inherently compatible with said SPAA, and the thought that the former should use the later never occured to them.
I also dont speak swedish but this source seems entirely unrelated to SPAA, its about radar and radar countermeasures
Here’s the OP’s explanation.
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Orrrrr. Perhaps we could nerf the stupid ass drones to actually have realistic flight model and damage model? Instead of just throwing out historical accuracy for “balancing” something else that is also historically inaccurate?
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There has been no concrete proof of the launcher being able to aim vertically, the ONLY movement i have personally seen is during the foldout to set it to position before launching. if you have any actual concrete proof of vertical aim i would be more than happy to be proven wrong and help you create a report for it.
Not a mechanic that is in game yet (and no, it’s not an optical tracker that other vehicles have and that is a mechanic in-game). I would however love for this mechanic (laser trigonometry calculation prediction tracking) to be added.
Untrue, The first mentioned Swedish trials with 40mm proxy was done the same summer that the VEAK 40 trials was scrapped (1964) and that source is even a bit questionable as they are only mentioned in passing used for testing an active protection system on planes ment to prematurely trigger proxy fuses. The first time where they appear in service is in the navy ammunition catalogue in 1975, the army didn’t get the 40mm proxy intill years after that.
This was a change for ALL leopards as there is a limiter in the FCS system that automatically lifts the barrel at that point, turning of that safety also disables the automatic stabilization and things of that nature. It can however be argued if that should be a thing modeled in the game or not in general and if yes it should be on all tanks that have it and not just some.
Yep, all spike missiles in-game has this issue, not just the CV90. I hope they will fix that at some point.
Source?
Please use this thread instead. Thank you