Very much doubt that… It’s more likely the fact that people were peeved with the idea of being revenge bombed, and having people merely rush straight back to where they were to try get them.
That is after all one of the most common complaints.
People calling bots out every match comes to a stage where they’re just trying to deny that they were going to wear it anyway.
thats is a thing iv noticed but there have also been a lot more bot reporting’s happening so i kinda just put those 2 under the same belt for how common they are
To be honest, when people call out people as being nefarious, I often pull up replays to check them out, and to be real with you, there’s so many are just upset with being got.
I had a guy one time upset that the heli that got him had missiles on the first spawn, yet they were actually rockets, but they were adamant that they were missiles and that the player was doing something.
A combo of:
Its become such a prevenient problem that Gaijin had to address it and publish a ban list, so players are very aware of it.
And its very hard to tell the difference between a super experienced good player and someone cheating sometimes (insert plug for player performance balancing in the MM here).
The maps have already been ruined to satisfy the “I got shot from nowhere” crowd. This change reduces the learning benefits for these players and they will whinge even more. Tiny, perfectly flat maps are on their way…
That’s not quite what the matra was to be honest… It was commonly ‘I can’t get them from there, they shot me from SO FAR’, and ‘How’d they even get there’ or ‘why’d they even go there as the objective isn’t there’
good that you changed the special killcam to help the hackers!
I am not missing it as much as I thought I would.As a natural coward in the game it probably suits my game play style as the UK’s premier hide and seek champion.
The Seal clubbers Really love this New cams No more Pe-8 Bombing at there Sniping spots
Who wants to waste a big bomb on a single sniping tank? That is not how to play the Pe 8
The problem of 3.7-5.3 is that allot of Lev100 that have completed 3-5 Nations Come at this br allot of the time they end up sniping, So there never Single Sniping tanks, But you still gotta Bomb them for the team
In update 2.37.0.63 the developers did not catch the problem of players.
If someone doesn’t need to see the kill camera at all - you could have added the “Don’t see kill camera” setting option.
If someone doesn’t need to see the kill camera in some special situation - use spacebar to skip it. (It doesn’t work right now).
Now I can see the moment of the hit and the explosion - but I don’t need it to see me get killed (I’m already killed). And then I see that the enemy who killed me is already leaving the place where he fired from. And Spacebar doesn’t work again - I can’t skip it.
I think it shows that fine
I feel most of the changes to the game now are just designed to further increase player frustration and push them to spend money. This has always been the design philosophy behind most changes in this game and this is just another part of it, it’s gonna get worse from here.
It is not going to reduce revenge bombing. It is also going to make more people frustrated because they get less information of how they died.
Information they shouldn’t have anyway… the killcam was a mistake from the beginning.
It’s completely unrealistic
But yet every player since GF was introduced developed their skills/knowledge with such a feature (yes, chances are it is clicked past and ignored as time goes on).
The question is did it make revenge bombing that more likely? Was revenge bombing ever a big deal as some made it (I can only recall two clear examples in my entire WT time)? Is revenge bombing stopped by temoval? Is it now harder for newer players to learn? Do people really expect others to spend time after every match in server replays (yes they might be helpful, but I only ever checked when having awesome matches)?
It has in part reduced the appeal for new casual gamers. Has it stopped “revenge” bombing?
That only shows how bad a lot of mechanics in ground forces were from the start.
Why is that the question? i said nothing about revenge bombing. i just said they shouldn’t have the information… Revengee bombing, shouldn’t be in this discussion anyway, since it is in the general section not the RB section. the way aircraft are implemented in AB, the killcam is irrelevant for bombing… so it is an RB problem not a general problem. It has no place in the general subsection.
Also irrelevant
Who cares? learning doesn’t justify putting magic into a somewhat realistic game. The new players just have to deal with reality… simple as that. Why does everyone need their hand held and need to be cuddled?
No, i expect for most of them to not care how they did and make an analysis out of each death. Most play for fun and aren’t autistic.
No it doesn’t most players play AB, that has labels, so they know the enemies positions… it therefore doesn’t have an effect on the usual casual players. And in Sim it definately has no place… so all that’s left is the RB crowd, and those people still need to get over their shizophrenia of whether they want a shooer or something realistic… so it doesn’t even have an effect on most players… it’s not a big deal.
No, it might point to a ladder being lifted up that all other players enjoyed, whether they realised or not. Not being a new player (ignore my inactivity if you can) I would not notice personally as outside of rare “wtf was that shot?” the cam is something to get past asap.
Irrespective as it is a reason vocalised, one that effects RBGF more, AFs not at all, and I can’t see it being an issue as much in ABGF in terms of where shot from since most are clearly marked and will not effect too much how a victim might respond. If the enemy is tagged then the victim will find them cam or no.
They did not remove killcam to effect AF did they? Which mode do you believe is effected and why? (I get GFRB, but not sure on GFAB).
Yes, killcam removed from all modes. But GFRB is a mode and part of this discussion.
Why? Because you are unaware as to the reason for the change, please tell?
Why are you offended by it? (As in need it removed, as per your last paragraph ending with
So you appear hightened by something that is not a big deal!
Yes I get the RB focus issue, but this section can discuss effects in each mode and not “one of them topics” that needs to stick to one mode aka General.
This is still irrelevant to my post. Who cares how many enjoy it. For what WT sets out to be it is a bad mechanic, simple as that.
Sure, but it isn’t part about the general discussion of that subect, it needs it’s own RB thread.
Since it isn’t an effect, that is in the game in general.
No because i already stated why revenge bombing is irrelevant to a discussion on the general effects of the change… it is a specific effect. I found it unnecessary to reiterate the exact same point.
Because it doesn’t belong. And of course it is offensive, it is condescending in it’s very nature. It gives you something because the devs think you are too stupid to figure thingsout on your own, again the very nature of being offensive and condescending.
The revenge bombing aspects aren’t a big deal since it does not affect at least 75% of the ground forces players. The Kill cam itsel is an issue in a game about realism, it has no place. I like how you singled out the “no big deal” part but completely ignoring the rest of the paragraph.
also noone prefaces his arguments with “only applicable to RB”… this is the main problem why general threads become useless for gamemode specific issues. Since a 3rd party cannot differentiate what mode is meant… so a dev not playing the game, will not know where to apply a fix and will see the problem in the wrong light. This should be a rather obvious issue…