The Seal clubbers Really love this New cams No more Pe-8 Bombing at there Sniping spots
Who wants to waste a big bomb on a single sniping tank? That is not how to play the Pe 8
The problem of 3.7-5.3 is that allot of Lev100 that have completed 3-5 Nations Come at this br allot of the time they end up sniping, So there never Single Sniping tanks, But you still gotta Bomb them for the team
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In update 2.37.0.63 the developers did not catch the problem of players.
If someone doesn’t need to see the kill camera at all - you could have added the “Don’t see kill camera” setting option.
If someone doesn’t need to see the kill camera in some special situation - use spacebar to skip it. (It doesn’t work right now).
Now I can see the moment of the hit and the explosion - but I don’t need it to see me get killed (I’m already killed). And then I see that the enemy who killed me is already leaving the place where he fired from. And Spacebar doesn’t work again - I can’t skip it.
I think it shows that fine
I feel most of the changes to the game now are just designed to further increase player frustration and push them to spend money. This has always been the design philosophy behind most changes in this game and this is just another part of it, it’s gonna get worse from here.
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It is not going to reduce revenge bombing. It is also going to make more people frustrated because they get less information of how they died.
Information they shouldn’t have anyway… the killcam was a mistake from the beginning.
It’s completely unrealistic
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But yet every player since GF was introduced developed their skills/knowledge with such a feature (yes, chances are it is clicked past and ignored as time goes on).
The question is did it make revenge bombing that more likely? Was revenge bombing ever a big deal as some made it (I can only recall two clear examples in my entire WT time)? Is revenge bombing stopped by temoval? Is it now harder for newer players to learn? Do people really expect others to spend time after every match in server replays (yes they might be helpful, but I only ever checked when having awesome matches)?
It has in part reduced the appeal for new casual gamers. Has it stopped “revenge” bombing?
That only shows how bad a lot of mechanics in ground forces were from the start.
Why is that the question? i said nothing about revenge bombing. i just said they shouldn’t have the information… Revengee bombing, shouldn’t be in this discussion anyway, since it is in the general section not the RB section. the way aircraft are implemented in AB, the killcam is irrelevant for bombing… so it is an RB problem not a general problem. It has no place in the general subsection.
Also irrelevant
Who cares? learning doesn’t justify putting magic into a somewhat realistic game. The new players just have to deal with reality… simple as that. Why does everyone need their hand held and need to be cuddled?
No, i expect for most of them to not care how they did and make an analysis out of each death. Most play for fun and aren’t autistic.
No it doesn’t most players play AB, that has labels, so they know the enemies positions… it therefore doesn’t have an effect on the usual casual players. And in Sim it definately has no place… so all that’s left is the RB crowd, and those people still need to get over their shizophrenia of whether they want a shooer or something realistic… so it doesn’t even have an effect on most players… it’s not a big deal.
No, it might point to a ladder being lifted up that all other players enjoyed, whether they realised or not. Not being a new player (ignore my inactivity if you can) I would not notice personally as outside of rare “wtf was that shot?” the cam is something to get past asap.
Irrespective as it is a reason vocalised, one that effects RBGF more, AFs not at all, and I can’t see it being an issue as much in ABGF in terms of where shot from since most are clearly marked and will not effect too much how a victim might respond. If the enemy is tagged then the victim will find them cam or no.
They did not remove killcam to effect AF did they? Which mode do you believe is effected and why? (I get GFRB, but not sure on GFAB).
Yes, killcam removed from all modes. But GFRB is a mode and part of this discussion.
Why? Because you are unaware as to the reason for the change, please tell?
Why are you offended by it? (As in need it removed, as per your last paragraph ending with
So you appear hightened by something that is not a big deal!
Yes I get the RB focus issue, but this section can discuss effects in each mode and not “one of them topics” that needs to stick to one mode aka General.
This is still irrelevant to my post. Who cares how many enjoy it. For what WT sets out to be it is a bad mechanic, simple as that.
Sure, but it isn’t part about the general discussion of that subect, it needs it’s own RB thread.
Since it isn’t an effect, that is in the game in general.
No because i already stated why revenge bombing is irrelevant to a discussion on the general effects of the change… it is a specific effect. I found it unnecessary to reiterate the exact same point.
Because it doesn’t belong. And of course it is offensive, it is condescending in it’s very nature. It gives you something because the devs think you are too stupid to figure thingsout on your own, again the very nature of being offensive and condescending.
The revenge bombing aspects aren’t a big deal since it does not affect at least 75% of the ground forces players. The Kill cam itsel is an issue in a game about realism, it has no place. I like how you singled out the “no big deal” part but completely ignoring the rest of the paragraph.
also noone prefaces his arguments with “only applicable to RB”… this is the main problem why general threads become useless for gamemode specific issues. Since a 3rd party cannot differentiate what mode is meant… so a dev not playing the game, will not know where to apply a fix and will see the problem in the wrong light. This should be a rather obvious issue…
Took you a while. So, for you it is about realism. Or your version of realism as determined by this game.
Let us see why others felt it was removed. For your information most tanks do not have crosses marking trajectory/penetrating so sadly AB needs a lot more done to it to cater to supposed realism (not even present in Sim).
Believing the existence of killcam is condescending is laughable so I will stop there.
Best of luck in whatever you are trying the achieve.
Becauss it was easier to quote on a phone. I explained I was relating to the paragraph ending on that.
I look forward to all the AB AF/GF, RB AF, Sim players explaining how kill cam (which you click past and holds no special information and gives no other advantage) was such a menace and needed removing. As opposed to the inflated voice of a group within a minority group (RBGF) regarding how it might effect the game.
Gaijin removed it due to realism as opposed to focusing on the other unrealistic aspects. Because it is all about realism.
Why would you want it back? It gives no useful information in ABGF and makes the game less realistic, which is why it was removed from both.
As you mainly play GFRB and AFAB surely you see talking in the context of all modes and not just a particular one?
Surely irrelevant since this is a general topic about Ground and there is no Revenge in AB (effected by killcam) so it won’t change anything!
No just the textbook definition.
There are no versions of realism.
It is also what WT is advertised as and it is only fair that all vehicles have the same level of realism.
Tanks atm are a joke.
AB isn’t supposed to be realistic, SB is and RB is schizophrenic. I already stated that. I don’t know why you make this an argument again. Are you bored?
And realism is there to a decent degree in air sim. Which should be the benchmark. But then again tanks are a joke in WT.
Why?
You state that, but that doesn’t make it true. A dev not thinking you are capable of figuring something out and therefore giving massive assists is condescending in it’s very nature. It is the dev thinking of you as too incompetent. It’s by definition condescending.
You saying it is ridiculous doesn’t change that. Either have a proper argument or say nothing at all.
I am not trying to achieve anything. I am just pointing something out… Stop interpreting. If i want to achieve something i will say it outright.
And the phone stopped you from understanding the context of the paragrah as well?
The only relevant people here are the sim air players, as those are the only ones interested in a simulator. I already stated that it is irrelevant to AB.
But expecting you to remember that might be too much to ask.
Oh and by the way
Back from the days when we had an actual simmer community in GF… They are mostly gone now, which is why on air sb counts as simmers these days.
Back when the sim Community had hopes for GF.
Of course those guys are the yardstick for realsim… As those are the ones that care about it and don’t want a pew pew shooter
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Ignoring whatever that was all about. The point of the kill-cam should be to show where and how the enemy player killed you. I could honestly care less about what damage I took and more the trajectory the shell/bullets hit me from.
I like it and I was against change.With the new kill cam and mini map ,I know where I was hit from pretty much but I am back in the game quicker now.I was always amazed how the game seemed to race away in the few seconds it took to respawn. That was more of an issue.
I still get revenge bombed,you will on an open map,not much you can do .
The old kill cam should have been named cheat cam, a joke for gameplay.
They should go ever further, and only have the last 2-3 second penetration cam.