New incoming missiles! Old meta ruined?

My guy, FOX-3s dont kill past 15 km if you pay attention to the RWR, even under 7 if you are lucky and do have your monitor on.
Range is nice and all, but half the kills are at close range when you dont have time to notch, relying on the enemy being afk at +50km for a missile to kill is… something.

And AIM-120 are just not it at the moment, and if the AIM-120D cant turn like the AAM-4 at least it will be DOA

Try not tree hugging I guess and you’ll manage. You can just also not fire the aim120 within 3km I guess, shouldn’t be that hard. With your logic the meteor will be the shittiest missile in the game

cool i guess, not sure how thats related to anything

It’s the same scenario with the aim54a vs 54c, all comes down to gaijin poor modeling

U said this post proves how the usa main thinks, just saying i created this post and i’m not an usa main xd

I didnt reply to you though

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What does this have to do with anything I’ve said?

So you dont put any presure on the enemy, so you can be pushed and killed more easily? Got it.

I have no comments on any missile that is not in game

ok my bad then, i thought u were referring to me when u mentioned “topic” and “average usa main”.

What’s the point of mentioning it then? I feel like you are not bringing anything to the discussion aside from rage bait like “this user is how USA main thinks”, is it possible for you to be a productive member and not try to devolve topics into pointless tribal / personal bias debates? You even had OP confused for a moment.

This just goes straight to my point about not using your strenghts. When I spaded the sm2 60% or more of the people climb and bvr. The only plane that was fighting within the 3km range was the rafale for obvious reasons. The only way you will put pressure on an enemy is by spamming missiles, this happens from early to mid game. If you have plane with a lot of missiles, the range advantage becomes more obvious.

No it just comes down to me personally disliking a certain part of the community, that calls everything it can’t use “DOA/Russian bias/etc”

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So because you dislike his opinion, you just rage bait and accuse the guy of tree hugging or X-main mindset, in what way is that contributing to the discussion? The answer is that it doesn’t.

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ME WHEN I HEAR RUSSIAN BIAS
btw what is “DOA”?

Im not even sure what post you’re referring to

Dead on arrival

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Correct, but that presure is not a real presure unless you have multiple missiles comming from diferent directions, but this is just adding external factors when we are comparing the missile performance alone.

Anyone that has played every kind of fox-3 will tell you how bad the AIm-120 are thanks to not pulling at all. As someone who plays in tournaments and has used the AIM-120, I can assure you that its one of the most irrelevant missiles when almost every kills happens at least 5km away, kills that the AIM-120 just cant get because at close range is the worst of them all.

At long ranges its the best, but that doesnt works against people that have an active brain function.

He is referring to this. You calling me a usamain when i have every top tier jet excep for Hornets because who gives a flying F about hornets.

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might also get JF-17C with PL-12A… who knows

I was referring to the image but I guess you’re right, my post was rather vague

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Not 100% sure but iirc they said that for now it was only for the J-10C

This doesn’t sound right to me